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Old 29 January 2014, 03:22   #31
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At work we have seen a huge increase in fuel related problems, inline with the change in modern fuel. The smaller carbed engines suffer the worse. Maybe in a marine environment theres more moisture for the ethanol to attract into the fuel (I'm not a scientist).

I certainly wouldnt by petrol from a guy who only fills his tank once a year. Maybe theres a reason it takes him a year to sell it...
Yes. I had the same thought.
Mind you he was so in the middle of nowhere and the place looked like it had seen much better times, oh and he wanted 13p a litre more than I usually pay!

As I said before, I haven't had a problem with the fuel at all but all my stuff is 10 to 20 years old but it sits about for ages in between uses!

Do you work with garden machinery?
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Old 29 January 2014, 03:29   #32
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Not meaning to open up a hornets nest here but,
I was in a very rural garage today.
I could see that he has had pumps removed and now only has one for unleaded and one for diesel.
I asked how often he needs to refill the tanks.

"Usually we have one delivery of each a year" was the reply

I asked if the fuel lasts ok for a year in his tanks.

"Course it bloody does boy" was the reply.

Just thought I'd share that. :-)
Fantastic!

It's so heartening to know that this great country can still accomodate the eccentric.

If he had to refill it twice a year, he'd be complaining about being overworked.

I'll have a pint of whatever he's on.
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Fantastic!

It's so heartening to know that this great country can still accomodate the eccentric.

If he had to refill it twice a year, he'd be complaining about being overworked.

I'll have a pint of whatever he's on.
I know quite a few eccentric's :-)

Those of you who are having regular problems with fuel.
Have you considered using different suppliers.
I have noticed up to a 10mpg difference, on my car, in my fuel consumption dependant on where I fill up.
And sometimes if varies from the same garage!!!
So there must be a difference in the quality from the pump.
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Old 29 January 2014, 05:18   #34
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Yes. I had the same thought. Mind you he was so in the middle of nowhere and the place looked like it had seen much better times, oh and he wanted 13p a litre more than I usually pay! As I said before, I haven't had a problem with the fuel at all but all my stuff is 10 to 20 years old but it sits about for ages in between uses! Do you work with garden machinery?
I work with outboards. And must admit there are certain outboards that are worse than others for it. The common story is customers putting the boats away doing nothing to the engines, taking them out a few months later when the sun comes out and getting angry when they don't start and they miss a days boating. Now if they all got them serviced in the winter i wouldn't be stuck doing overtime on the best days of the year, and could be using mine (it got used for 3 days last year).
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I work with outboards. And must admit there are certain outboards that are worse than others for it. The common story is customers putting the boats away doing nothing to the engines, taking them out a few months later when the sun comes out and getting angry when they don't start and they miss a days boating. Now if they all got them serviced in the winter i wouldn't be stuck doing overtime on the best days of the year, and could be using mine (it got used for 3 days last year).
I have a friend like that, his boat is inboard engined but he tows it home end of Sept.
Takes it back down for Easter.
Does nothing to it at all, not even draining the water out the blocks.
He hasn't uncovered it this winter since he bought it back.
Infact it was seized last Easter but I managed to fee it off, just!!!
But he always starts it by tipping fuel straight in the carb after its been stood up, wonder why!! Lol
With mine I dont do anything with the fuel at all. I don't ever disconnect the fuel line from the engine. But I do run it every 3 weeks minimum and do maintain/service it as necessary!
Any problems or potential ones get sorted straight away.
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It seams I have started a debate on fuel! Please note the time for fuel to go off is quoted by most small engine manufacturers and not me trying to sell you fuel.

As I said fuel stored in larger quantities seams to keep better and starting the engine every three weeks means the fuel is not sitting in the carb over winter.

I was just suggesting Aspen as a fill and forget fuel for small engines.

Please let us all know if fuel problems are common for marine engines and outboards.

Kind regards

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It seams I have started a debate on fuel! Please note the time for fuel to go off is quoted by most small engine manufacturers and not me trying to sell you fuel.

As I said fuel stored in larger quantities seams to keep better and starting the engine every three weeks means the fuel is not sitting in the carb over winter.

I was just suggesting Aspen as a fill and forget fuel for small engines.

Please let us all know if fuel problems are common for marine engines and outboards.

Kind regards

Eddie
Much appreciated Eddie. Didn't think you were trying to sell fuel.
And I'm not trying to stop or discourage sale of your fuel.

I do start the boat every 3 weeks, however for example yesterday I started up my road roller which has a Suzuki 4 stroke engine fitted. Started first time and ran and drove great!
Been sat in the barn for 11 months untouched!
Ran for 2 hours non stop on the same fuel!

:-) Lol
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I ran some Aspen fuel through mine in nov so fingers crossed
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I ran some Aspen fuel through mine in nov so fingers crossed
No need to cross your fingers!

It will start.
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New to ribbing as well.... and advise taken from Blackdog marine....Flushed the engine with muffs and keep upright to let excess water out, Added Quicksilver Quickstor to Fuel, Changed the Gearbox oil and done !.... Read that I should not use fogging oil on my Mariner 4 stroke so wont.....
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