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Old 27 February 2018, 02:01   #1
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outboard advice needed

Hi to all
i know this isn't a rib but i own a 1991 bayliner capri 20' at the moment i don't have an outboard on the boat, but looking into buying one off eBay.the boat originally come with a force 120hp 2 stroke which weighed 128kg. my budget for a outboard isn't good at the moment but theres a chance i could get one off eBay at a affordable pricie thing is the reason why it isn't selling is due to its size its a 150hp 6 cylinder 2stroke and weighs 201kg. my question is could this be used on my boat, also does anyone know what the running cost would be like have any of you members run a 150hp 2 stroke. the outboard in question is a evinrude fitch 1997.
any help and advice appreciated
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Old 27 February 2018, 04:43   #2
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I have a Bayliner 20'. It had a Force 120 . It finally expired. It was a great engine with loads of bang for water skiing. Was heavy on the juice. I replaced it with a Honda 90. 30kg heavier. Its no good for water skiing.wakeboarding but we get through about a third of the fuel and no oil. It doesn't sound as nice as the Force either. The heavier Honda changed the trim of the boat completely. Stern down. Originally the starter battery (nearly 20kg)was in the stern. I moved it and rewired it to the bow and the boat sits very well. The Honda is 156kg. I would not put anything heavier on the back. The added advantage was that every time the boat set off with the battery in the stern it got covered with a rush of deck water.Now it stays nice and dry. I put it in the front starboard hatch.Hope that helps.Nik
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Old 27 February 2018, 06:16   #3
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You may need a XL 25" engine for that boat. Measure it before you buy. I know of two with cut down transoms which now flood, dont do that.
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Old 27 February 2018, 06:17   #4
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A 70kg gain in weight on the transom is quite significant you'd maybe be better off looking for a v4 130 or 140 hp rather than the v6 your looking at
From what matata says it sounds like dropping hp is a none starter as it hampers the performance so much
The force (chrysler) engine was notoriously thirsty for its output so switching to say a v4 yam or OMC in the 115-140hp range you wouldn't use any more fuel and may even use less
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Old 27 February 2018, 10:01   #5
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I'd go with Beamishken. 156kg Honda is as heavy as you could get away with on the back. Dream ticket 115 Yam 2 stroke!!!
Feel free if you want any more details. Nik
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Old 27 February 2018, 12:37   #6
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I have a Bayliner 20'. It had a Force 120 . It finally expired. It was a great engine with loads of bang for water skiing. Was heavy on the juice. I replaced it with a Honda 90. 30kg heavier. Its no good for water skiing.wakeboarding but we get through about a third of the fuel and no oil. It doesn't sound as nice as the Force either. The heavier Honda changed the trim of the boat completely. Stern down. Originally the starter battery (nearly 20kg)was in the stern. I moved it and rewired it to the bow and the boat sits very well. The Honda is 156kg. I would not put anything heavier on the back. The added advantage was that every time the boat set off with the battery in the stern it got covered with a rush of deck water.Now it stays nice and dry. I put it in the front starboard hatch.Hope that helps.Nik
cool which bayliner do you have nik ?
i have since spoken to someone that knows bit about the evinrude fitch and as advised to stay clear of it, apparently they had many faults and the company almost went bankrupt from that outboard the fitch, he did say the newer etec are the ones to go for.
i take it the Honda you now have is 4 stroke hence the weight
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Old 27 February 2018, 12:39   #7
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You may need a XL 25" engine for that boat. Measure it before you buy. I know of two with cut down transoms which now flood, dont do that.
hi Davie
yes mine is an xl, and still is thankfully
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Old 27 February 2018, 12:52   #8
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A 70kg gain in weight on the transom is quite significant you'd maybe be better off looking for a v4 130 or 140 hp rather than the v6 your looking at
From what matata says it sounds like dropping hp is a none starter as it hampers the performance so much
The force (chrysler) engine was notoriously thirsty for its output so switching to say a v4 yam or OMC in the 115-140hp range you wouldn't use any more fuel and may even use less
Hi beamishken
i have been advised to stay clear of the evinrude fitch 150hp, heavy outboard and very thirsty oh and known for there faults( hence why its going cheap on eBay ), the v4 sounds good, but its finding one with the budget i have and also it needs to be a xl shaft.
the outboard i would really like is the yamaha 115 four stroke (2007) thing is there very expensive second hand looking at around 4k it only weighs an extra 30kg. i will keep looking for something between 115-140
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Old 27 February 2018, 12:55   #9
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I'd go with Beamishken. 156kg Honda is as heavy as you could get away with on the back. Dream ticket 115 Yam 2 stroke!!!
Feel free if you want any more details. Nik
thanks matata, i will keep my eyes open, a 115 2stroke sounds perfect
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Old 27 February 2018, 13:43   #10
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This any good for you
http://www.boatmad.com/forum/f9/yama...eto-29355.html
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