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Old 30 April 2007, 09:42   #31
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Unless you buy the opti at the right price, like imported cars a couple of years ago "buy cheap but you have to sell cheap"
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Old 30 April 2007, 13:35   #32
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All things being equal.

So f I bought an Opti 150 at say 6300 inc. and an Etech 150 at 7800inc that's a difference of 1500. In 3 years the Opti will sell for about 4500 and the Etech for about 5500. So in my opinion that's not alot of difference.

Now if Opti's where replaced completely by then, I guess the price might need to be lowered a bit to get it sold, but no more than 1000 tops. So you are only talking of about 800 max difference between the two. Not much over three years in the boating world.

I would say it would be even less on the back of a RIB of the same design.

I think that secondhand Etecs are more expensive because they're a lot rarer.
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Old 01 May 2007, 05:38   #33
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YOU SHOULD START SELLING ENGINES

its not the price diffrance its the speed of selleing ???

if it takes 3 months more to sell a old opti thats 20000 in the bank at %%%
( wich it does )
plus 3 months storage @+++++ and three months more depriciation

o yes and cost of ownership as well but hey the choice is yours .

its just my opinion , if at the start of this it was said you could only afford the opti thats diffrent
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So... Quick hijack here. Who sees an opti as old technology and who sees it as proven technology?
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So... Quick hijack here. Who sees an opti as old technology and who sees it as proven technology?
I went down the Optimax route as it is proven and came at the right price I couldn't find much positive feed back on the Etec 6 months ago when i had to decide which way to jump, the feed back I could find mostly from American fishing forums seemed to agree that the Etec's needed more hours before most people would change and I've saved over 2000.00 against the Etec to spend on repairs or to put to the next engine if the opti has to be sold cheap when the time comes, but people may also still want well looked after/serviced Opti's so its a gamble but I may finish somewhere close to even and had loads of

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YOU SHOULD START SELLING ENGINES

its not the price diffrance its the speed of selleing ???

if it takes 3 months more to sell a old opti thats 20000 in the bank at %%%
( wich it does )
plus 3 months storage @+++++ and three months more depriciation

o yes and cost of ownership as well but hey the choice is yours .

its just my opinion , if at the start of this it was said you could only afford the opti thats diffrent
So I'm in the market for an outboard, PM me with your best price on a 150 etec If you can get it close enough to a Opti you might well have yourself a sale.
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Old 01 May 2007, 15:35   #37
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Dave, have you ever noticed how many guys on Ribnet 'big-up' what they own. You never hear an 'actually, I wish I'd gone for a different model'. Therefore, it begs the question of just how much 'weight' these opinions carry. Anyway, I own an Opti 150 and probably wouldn't go for another. It's a good engine, reliable, OK on fuel, the price of Opti oil galls me a bit. My reason for not having another would be noise. It's OK blatting around locally, but on a long run it becomes tiresome for those in the rear of the boat. My son took the helm on a return trip from the Scillies last year,I sat behind him on the rear bench. Having not sat back there before I didn't realise how noisy it was. An hour+ of that is hard going. It'll be a hard choice next time.
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I've heard the same said of Etecs.. once under way they are quite noisey, I guess the only way to go for a quiet life is 4 Stroke.

That was certainly what impressed me about the Mercury 90 4 stroke on the XS that I was trained in by Rogue Wave at idle you could not really hear it and at WOT it is still v.quiet.

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I've heard the same said of Etecs.. once under way they are quite noisey, I guess the only way to go for a quiet life is 4 Stroke.

That was certainly what impressed me about the MNercury 90 4 strok on the XS that I was trained in by Rogue Wave at idel you could not really hear it and at WOT it is still v.quiet.

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I ride shotgun in Roycruse's Ribcraft quite often. The 140 Suzuki is incredible at tickover, the tell-tale splash is louder than the engne. At WOT it is isn't as noisy as my Opti but, loud enough if again, near the rear of the boat. What are the Yam 4 strokes like?
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Dave, have you ever noticed how many guys on Ribnet 'big-up' what they own. You never hear an 'actually, I wish I'd gone for a different model'. Therefore, it begs the question of just how much 'weight' these opinions carry. Anyway, I own an Opti 150 and probably wouldn't go for another. It's a good engine, reliable, OK on fuel, the price of Opti oil galls me a bit. My reason for not having another would be noise. It's OK blatting around locally, but on a long run it becomes tiresome for those in the rear of the boat. My son took the helm on a return trip from the Scillies last year,I sat behind him on the rear bench. Having not sat back there before I didn't realise how noisy it was. An hour+ of that is hard going. It'll be a hard choice next time.
well not always

i had a honda 90 for 9 years, was great, reliable, very quite for trolling on the river, but on the sea made a fair bit of noise but no punch compared to a two stroker and hondas seem to have some odd negative view by ribbers for some reason.

probably like a few folks on here i actually quite like the growl and presence of a v6 3 litre 2 stoke! marvellous noise. Not everyones cup of tea but does it for me at around 35-40 the wind noise is far worse than the engine and keira seems quite happy to go to sleep on the back seat 18 inches away from our engine so it cant be that bad!

the opti cant compare to a yam or honda for build quality but it seems to do the job quite nicely and at a very attractive price.

when i choose mine the small block etec was unproven, the 150/175 suz were unproven so i did my research and made my choice, would make the same choice today with no hesitation as long as the price points were similar as before. i saved a lot of
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