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eupa · 13 July 2006, 18:48

Being very frugal, with jewish ancestery , and having long pockets and short hands- in assiciation with PRINS lpg systems- are starting a project to run my HPDI's on LPG. It is very possible but am missing one parameter-.

Anybody know the opening time of an injector in milliseconds of a 250 hpdi at 3000 rpms? and idle at 600?. Yamaha dont want to know- . Cant even find out who makes the injectors.

If the project is successful,a large LPG distributor in Belgium has promised to put a LPG barge in Nieuwport free of charge.

Prins have succesffuly converted 4T Evinrudes going to 200 HP. The company doing this is Antwerp based. It all depends on the soft- but the above information is the go or no- go

jonathan

codprawn · 13 July 2006, 18:54

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Originally Posted by eupa

Being very frugal, with jewish ancestery , and having long pockets and short hands- in assiciation with PRINS lpg systems- are starting a project to run my HPDI's on LPG. It is very possible but am missing one parameter-.

Anybody know the opening time of an injector in milliseconds of a 250 hpdi at 3000 rpms? and idle at 600?. Yamaha dont want to know- . Cant even find out who makes the injectors.

If the project is successful,a large LPG distributor in Belgium has promised to put a LPG barge in Nieuwport free of charge.

Prins have succesffuly converted 4T Evinrudes going to 200 HP. The company doing this is Antwerp based. It all depends on the soft- but the above information is the go or no- go

jonathan

Have you tried running on 50/50 petrol/kero or even thought about it?

eupa · 13 July 2006, 19:13

That a good idea, but a 50/50seems high.With LPG will loose about 12% power. Would it fire on a 50/50 split? Try it on YOURS first????

Jonathan

codprawn · 13 July 2006, 20:07

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Originally Posted by eupa

That a good idea, but a 50/50seems high.With LPG will loose about 12% power. Would it fire on a 50/50 split? Try it on YOURS first????

Jonathan

In some countries they actually sell petrol mixed with 60% kero 40% petrol and people often don't notice - mind you it is places like India!!!

If it wasn't for the fact I am going to run commercially and will be able to get petrol for 32p a litre I would!!!

Obviously you would start at a much lower rate - say 80/20 and work your way up - you may have missed it but Evinrude are now making multifuel Etecs that will run on neat kero.

SultanOfSoltron · 13 July 2006, 20:50

Try looking up TVO on the internet, cos thats *basicaly* what a petrol/Kero mix is... see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tractor_vaporising_oil

codprawn · 14 July 2006, 01:00

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Originally Posted by SultanOfSoltron

Try looking up TVO on the internet, cos thats *basicaly* what a petrol/Kero mix is... see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tractor_vaporising_oil

Yup has been mentioned before. Also they used to start on petrol - switch to parrafin - then back to petrol again before switching off to flush through.

Maybe when I decide to re-engine with a 300 I will give it a go on the old one - as I have twin tanks it would be quite easy - wouldn't try it neat though!!!

eupa · 14 July 2006, 07:56

If it wasn't for the fact I am going to run commercially and will be able to get petrol for 32p a litre I would!!!

Run commercially?? carrying what? Shrimps?? have I missed a post" dont you need to register your boat ?. Mine is under a SSR registration - I use to be able to claw back the duty-and probaly still could if I was making more use of the boat as its intended purpose. The other problem is that in Dover they hate you if you start filling up with jerricans- in fact the Harbour master threw me out as " a risk to the public".....

Going down the LPG route- as if it blows , will probaly take the whole port
of Dover with it. That 's not such a bad idea?????

Jonathan

codprawn · 14 July 2006, 11:35

Yes getting the boat coded - corporate charter - stag weekends - film work etc etc - rather late in the season though - boat should have been ready ages ago!!!

eupa · 15 July 2006, 09:06

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Originally Posted by SultanOfSoltron

Try looking up TVO on the internet, cos thats *basicaly* what a petrol/Kero mix is... see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tractor_vaporising_oil

Thanks . But I am not running a bloody tractor!!!!!!!!!!!!. The yam 250 HPDI 2t is state of the art, software version 99999.0000, developed over the years by very talented peole, and operated by an --- idiot. These motors are
"delicate' themselves as regards fuel- and anything below 90 octane - probably will cause damage.I am not prepared to throw away 12000 euros worth of enginering wonder. LPG on the other hand can only do "good" to the
engine- for one thing dramatically reduce deposits.

I would nominate Codders to run a test using HIS engine- as he was the one who suggested this in the first place.

JONATHAN

eupa · 15 July 2006, 09:08

Yes getting the boat coded - corporate charter - stag weekends

How the heck can you have a stag weekend in a rib???

Jonathan

Searider · 15 July 2006, 09:30

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Originally Posted by codprawn

Have you tried running on 50/50 petrol/kero or even thought about it?

I thought his question was about the opening times of injectors on Yam HPDI engines in order to look at an LPG conversion.

What's that got to do with TVO?

Mrs Jardon · 15 July 2006, 10:09

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Originally Posted by eupa

Yes getting the boat coded - corporate charter - stag weekends

How the heck can you have a stag weekend in a rib???

Jonathan

line up the optics along the aframe, food served on the console and sleeping down the front....

wheres your sense of adventure gone?

codprawn · 16 July 2006, 22:19

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Originally Posted by Mrs Jardon

line up the optics along the aframe, food served on the console and sleeping down the front....

wheres your sense of adventure gone?

Bloody hell that's a good idea - shaken not stirred springs to mind!!!