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Old 01 November 2012, 06:59   #11
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Mine's using XD100 and set to TCW3 setting for maximum protection, because that's what I understand is best in cold conditions and water temp here is single figures C.

It doesn't smoke at all. I think I got about ten gallons of XD100 oil (US gallons - 3.7L) when I bought the boat and I have used about six or seven of them in two years, so just about to think about ordering some more.
Snap. I was told that this was a good if maybe overly cautious idea by a couple of different dealers. It doesn't use a huge amount of oil on the standard TCW3 setting anyway. I buy the XD100 oil in bulk from the Ribstuff website at about 35/gallon.
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The manual tells me I can use either Evinrude/Johnson XD100 or TC-W3RL for my etec.

Looking through previous posts on this site and others there seems to be no definitive solution.

What is my best solution and best (value for money) source?

If you think of the savings your already make with less overall service charges compaired with 4st, makes it worth spending that bit extra on the propper 2st oil imho.
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Old 02 November 2012, 04:45   #13
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Snap. I was told that this was a good if maybe overly cautious idea by a couple of different dealers. It doesn't use a huge amount of oil on the standard TCW3 setting anyway. I buy the XD100 oil in bulk from the Ribstuff website at about 35/gallon.
I've just ordered some from Ribstuff too

The cost of 2 or 3 cans a year on the higher setting is peanuts compared the fuel cost, the depreciation cost, and the 1000 odd a year it cost to insure the thing, so money well spent I think. I can't buy it in this country and mine travels 8000 miles to get here from the supplier, but it doesn't take much forward planning to make sure you don't run out.
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Old 02 November 2012, 09:43   #14
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The manual tells me I can use either Evinrude/Johnson XD100 or TC-W3RL for my etec.

Looking through previous posts on this site and others there seems to be no definitive solution.

What is my best solution and best (value for money) source?
Is your engine still under warranty? If so there is only one choice and that's the BRP Evinrude stuff as any other brand found when inspecting a broken engine will invalidate your cover.

FYI for the sake of saving a few 's I always use the genuine XD50 stuff in mine, it's just not worth the risk.
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You sure about that Andy....my understanding is that it would only be an issue if the EMM is programmed for the reduced oil XD-100 and you use something else.....

If it's set for TC-W3 you can use any TC-W3 oil even when under warranty, though it is suggested that you check to make sure what you choose is listed here Certification - TC-W3
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I'm pretty sure that was the criteria of the warranty when my engine was covered. I'd certainly check and to be honest for a few extra 's is it worth the risk?
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to be honest for a few extra 's is it worth the risk?
If there WAS a risk, then no.

The question is: is there a risk? Is Evinrude XD50 a superior TC-W3 rated oil? I presume that TC-W3 is a minimum standard and so there MIGHT be better and worse oils within that category. Is XD-50 one of them? I wouldn't assume this to be the case any more than I would assume that Evinrude make the best engines.

Of course, if BRP insist that you use their oil, then that's a gamechanger.

Having seen the inside of their software, I'm not convinced that they do.
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Evinrude make engines.... Not oil. And it's the very same with mercury and their quicksilver optimax oils

When I spoke to a colleague in the oil industry, re the use of mercury/quicksilver opti branded oil....... He stated he was yet to see a 'mercury or quicksilver' oil rig ...... Ie what he was implying was that they buy their oil, not make it, and then bottle it (though he reckons they don't even do that bit), label it and sell it on for a hefty profit. If oil is specked as tcw3 then there is no reason why it can not be used - or am I missing something??
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Evinrude make engines.... Not oil. And it's the very same with mercury and their quicksilver optimax oils

When I spoke to a colleague in the oil industry, re the use of mercury/quicksilver opti branded oil....... He stated he was yet to see a 'mercury or quicksilver' oil rig ...... Ie what he was implying was that they buy their oil, not make it, and then bottle it (though he reckons they don't even do that bit), label it and sell it on for a hefty profit. If oil is specked as tcw3 then there is no reason why it can not be used - or am I missing something??
I had an interesting exchange with a Technical type from ELF. He reckoned he could "make" XD100, for very little . Would using his "XD100" void a BRP warranty was more my question...
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Hmm this is interesting, after what Andy wrote I decided to dig a little deeper and pulled this off the Evinrude UK site http://www.evinrude.com/content/pdf/...conditions.pdf

Note the word "Special" in conditions, which in my books tends to translate to !

"ONLY BRP Evinrude certified parts, oils and lubes must be used for service and repairs of the Evinrude outboard engine during the entire eligible period for this programme to apply."

To me it should be written with oils* and then they explain that if engine is programmed for XD-100 ....etc etc

Alot of manufacturers seem to be doing this 3+2 warranty but then tying you down with very restrictive conditions.
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