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Old 11 February 2013, 19:52   #21
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Why use muffs on your engine? - it has a flush port, much easier to use and no need to run the engine when flushing.
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It's relative and depends on engine brand, the ones that has flushing port on engine block needs to be flushed with adequate hose water pressure or thermostat will never open, will have a partially flushed engine. Others that has tail flushing port needs to be flushed with engine on.

If you boat constantly and your engine has the screw type flush port in the long run will end damaging engine threads, so muffs will be the way to go.

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Old 12 February 2013, 07:48   #23
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And whilst I can see that it is better than doing nothing, with a bucket you are rinsing the engine in its own muck, ie the crap you want to get out of it, this must dilute the effect????

Muffs and fresh water has to be the way to go
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Why use muffs on your engine? - it has a flush port, much easier to use and no need to run the engine when flushing.
x2. If you can flush as soon as you come off the water then thermostats should still be open. Otherwise you may need to run it to get them to open. Generally the flush port should be used with the engine switched off to avoid burning out the impeller. (on the Mercs and Yams I have owned, others maybe different)
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good point needs to warm up a bit to open the stat, 10 minutes is a lot of fuel though, I'd make it 9 mins!

Etec on tickover= 0.7l/hr
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(unless it's a specially large water butt obv)
I'm sure a large butt expert will be along shortly
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And whilst I can see that it is better than doing nothing, with a bucket you are rinsing the engine in its own muck, ie the crap you want to get out of it, this must dilute the effect????

Muffs and fresh water has to be the way to go
Possibly, although I'd guess there is no more than a couple of litres absolute maximum (probably far less) in most medium sized outboards. So you are diluting 2 litres in a half a 45galon drum call it 20 galons = 90litres.

At a guess that means you are less likely to get big obstructions in the engine and as long as there is some water flowing past the obstruction it will re-disolve any residues next time you use it...

I'd have thought the ideal was to run it up to heat in the barrel and the muff it briefly while the stat is open.
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It's relative and depends on engine brand, the ones that has flushing port on engine block needs to be flushed with adequate hose water pressure or thermostat will never open, will have a partially flushed engine. Others that has tail flushing port needs to be flushed with engine on.

If you boat constantly and your engine has the screw type flush port in the long run will end damaging engine threads, so muffs will be the way to go.

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Most flushing ports don't require the thermostats to be open. And if they were open they'd close really quick with hose water rushing through. At least on my Yam the engine is not to be run while on the flushing port. Best bet is to read the manual and follow the directions...
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Not sufficient enough flow from the tap the cool the power head
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Old 12 February 2013, 23:15   #30
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Not sufficient enough flow from the tap the cool the power head
The thermostats don't close completely. There are bypass holes which allow water from the flush port to circulate. But pretty sure that after the drive home the engine is cold...
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As far as I know as long as its pumping water it will be fine. I have used muffs at boat yards where the water pressure is low and a trickle has come out of the tell tale but as long as its pumping its been fine. The muffs I use are the yellow ones that pump water out of both sides and it fits nice and tight on my Etec 60. Have a look on ebay just type in engine muffs.
i do like a nice tight muff
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i do like a nice tight muff
if you can find one let me know
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Old 09 April 2013, 21:25   #33
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i do like a nice tight muff
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