Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
 
Old 17 June 2004, 18:26   #1
Member
 
Country: Finland
Town: Tampere
Make: Atlantic 21, Avon SR4.0
Length: 6,9 m
Engine: Mercury F60 EFI x2
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 117
Mercury Verado 250 seatrial experiences

I was lucky to have been playing with Mercury Verado for four days during the last weekend. We had a major boating press happening in which I was hired to a driver of Bruckwick group boats. One of our boats, Aquador 21, had a brand new Verado 250 installed. Herewith some recent experiences about the engine, even though the boat wasn't a RIB. I had also long talks with Mercury Marine superspecialist Serge Santy, who has the most comprehensive information available about all Mercury Marine engines in Europe.

To start with, there are five Verados now in Europe of which two are the largest 275 hp versions. This our engine is the first Verado in Scandinavia and arrived Finland last thursday 8 days ago. The installation was carried out with very thight schedule since our happening started in saturday.

The engine is impressive. At first you can see its different installation geometry: the engine is actually outside the stern, so the distance to other structures like back of the engine well is longer than in ordinary outboards. Therefore you can tilt the engine to nearly horizontal position, which allows for example the propeller change easier than earlier. Powerhead is tall and it's cover can be deassembled easily in two pieces revealing the engine itself. Other point to note is a electro-hydraulic streering unit, there is just a small cylinder and two hydraulic hoses which take care of steering. No more cables or bulky hydraulic pumps.

Our test boat, Aquador 21, is a luxury daycruiser with maximum power recommendation of 225 hp. After some initial trials we installed a four blade 19" propeller and left the harbour for a test drive. I was more than eager since I had been waiting for months to test Verado!

The engines is started from a button in remote control unit. Needles to say, idling sound is hardly possible to hear, like a whisper. Clutch is electronic, you just firmly push it in and the boat will start to move. For the first time I was surprised, did the transmission really engaged, but Mr. Serge Santy said everything is ok. The clutch is just so soft that you hardly can feel when it works.

At under 10 knots hydraulic steering unit's sound is the only noise you can hear. Due extreme hurry with installation, the unit had to be placed under a sofa just on deck, so in following installations the small buzzing heard from steering system will disappear.

After we left the harbour, I opened the throttle and felt the power. Engine accelerated immediately and pushed the boat instantly to 40 knots. After some trimming the speed rose near 50 knot limit but not over it. The sound at full speed is incredible, you could speak without shouting just sitting on a sofa 250 hp Verado running over 6000 rpm just 3 feet away from you! There's just some small humming heard from stern....

I did quite a lot different acceleration tests and I have to say that Verado does speed probably better than any other production outboard. Sami Seliö, a U.I.M. F1 Boat driver was in our team and compared this engine to his earlier experiences. He said that Yamaha V-MAX 250 HPDI had the best throttle response he had tested to date, but Verado's capabilities were still better and the engine was the most responsive production outboard he had seen ever. My opinion is similar, Verado is fighting in completely the different category than other four-stroke engines and is, according to my subjective test session, better performer than most of the two stroke ourboards. Verado just accelerates like a rocket, at 30 knots you can feel the rush when pushing the throttle full open.

Aquador 21 weights some 1200 kg and we had 200 litres of fuel, 100 kg of equipment and two persons on board. After some serious driving, we really concentrated on hitting the top speed. At full throttle and nearly maximum trim 50,1 kn was achieved in nearly calm water. Not a bad figure, engine speed at four blader was 6260 rpm. Accelerating the Verado to top speed is great, power just comes and at over 40 knots while trimming high there's a low whistling sound like heard inside a jet plane flight - the compressor gives a nice sound! In our installation trimming too high wasn't possible, so driving was easy since limiter allowed no cavitation.

My earlier opinion about Verado was that it may be the most significant step in modern outboard history if everything will come true like promised. Now, after seatrials, I am confident that Mercury had done something that is very difficult to beat. It's not only the pure power, but just for example electro-hydraulic steering and control is totally different and very easy to handle. This system, by the way, comes to standard feature to Optimax V6 series also in very near future, maybe next season.

I spoke a lot about future or Verados and sales prospects. Deliveries start in Europe in July-August for the engines now revealed. Only authorized Verado dealers can sell and install engines, so all Mercury dealers cannot work with these fine mechines at first phase. Customers are not allowed to install Verados by themselves, so you have to order the Verado dealer to put your engine properly to your stern. Even if you would break the rules, installation is not possible since you need some softwares during preparations that are available only for Mercury staff.

Four cylinder models are following in 100-200 hp power range soon, probably a year after these 6 cylinder models. Also some larger engines will come, most likely a 300 hp version soon. Even larger power is easy to push out of Verado block, the racing model with 400 hp output can be easily created just by changing the chip in controller. Still, pleasureboat versions with higher output than 300-325 hp are not likely to come out.

I will post you some images from test drive tomorrow, but here was my first seatrial opinion. Andre and other guys who have already ordered Verados are getting a very fine engine, something that really stands out of the current ourboards available.
__________________

__________________
Pitkis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17 June 2004, 18:53   #2
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: West London
Boat name: Asp
Make: A BLACK Stealthly Metzeler
Length: 4m + really stealthy
Engine: Johnson 70hp VRO - not steathly at all!
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 231
so you liked it then!
__________________

__________________
Suzuki416 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17 June 2004, 19:07   #3
Member
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Make: HumberOceanOffshore
Length: 8m +
Engine: Volvo KAD300/DPX
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 4,962
Well done, Pitkis. Thanks for that.
__________________
JW.
jwalker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17 June 2004, 19:11   #4
Member
 
Louise's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Reading
Make: None
Length: under 3m
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,039
It sounds great - the performance of a 2 stroke but the quietness of a 4 stroke (if I've understood correctly)! The steering sounds good too. Do please keep us updated so we can follow how it performs and its reliability in the longer term.

(Blimey - even I'm interested in it and I'm a girl!! )
__________________
MUM POWER!
www.biboa.com
Scorpion RIB Group on Facebook
Louise is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17 June 2004, 19:12   #5
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Brittany/Portsmouth
Boat name: Merlin
Make: Solent 6.5
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200
MMSI: soon !
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 5,451
Is there a price point set for these babies yet ???
__________________
Happy New Resolutions!!! : RIBbing for the craic!!!
The Jackeens is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17 June 2004, 19:33   #6
Member
 
Richard B's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Devon
Boat name: White Ice
Make: Ranieri
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki 115hp
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 5,015
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Jackeens
Is there a price point set for these babies yet ???


Do you mean: how much are they?
Richard B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17 June 2004, 20:59   #7
Member
 
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
Make: Avon8.4, 5.4 & 4.777
Length: 8m +
Engine: Cat3126 Yam 90 &70
MMSI: 42
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 6,556
He probably means at what figure area can you start haggling

__________________
Here it comes again, I don't stand a chance
Soul possession, Got me in a trance
Pullin' me back to you - Deja Voodoo
Rogue Wave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18 June 2004, 04:12   #8
TIM
Member
 
Country: Ireland
Town: Dublin
Boat name: WIZARD
Make: REDBAY 7.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: OPTI 225
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 417
My Big Question is Fuel ?????

Do they burn as much as a ficht/hdpi/opti at low to mid revs????

I have two views on the new engines...

I have heard that the will be more expencive than the current 2 strokes and 4 strokes.

What is the piont in spending a fortune on a engine that will not return it to you over the long term?
Unless you need 275hp and hopefuly more !!!

I think what mercury have done is amazing.. they have finaily dragged the engine market into the real world with electronic throttle, gear and steering

If the price was compitive and they published fuel figures... I would buy one
__________________
NOT THE SHARPEST KNIFE IN THE DRAWER
TIM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18 June 2004, 04:13   #9
Member
 
Country: Finland
Town: Tampere
Make: Atlantic 21, Avon SR4.0
Length: 6,9 m
Engine: Mercury F60 EFI x2
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 117
There were no final pricing information yet, but some rumours about 25 000 euros for a 250 hp model was heard. A bit more expensive than other 4-strokes, but after seatrials you really don't think about that first...:-)
__________________
Pitkis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18 June 2004, 05:55   #10
Member
 
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
Make: Avon8.4, 5.4 & 4.777
Length: 8m +
Engine: Cat3126 Yam 90 &70
MMSI: 42
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 6,556
I think I read somewhere that the block was a straight six Japan sourced engine that was supercharged. Does this mean it's a Skyline block
__________________

__________________
Here it comes again, I don't stand a chance
Soul possession, Got me in a trance
Pullin' me back to you - Deja Voodoo
Rogue Wave is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off





Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:36.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.