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Old 25 January 2005, 18:33   #11
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Slightly off the original thread - but still related.

I am viewing a boat with Mariner 225 optimax 2002 this Thursday 27th. what should I be looking for in respect of service documention or on the unit itself. Does it have an inbuilt memory of the hours run? local dealer download? do these engines have a standard set of instruments when new?
for this size engine what hydraulic steering should be fitted?
Are 'muffs' available for this size engine to it to be run out of the water and for flushing after use?

Mariner dealer directory for servicing and future spares?

anything else you think relevent.

thanks (in advance)
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Hi Paul,

There should be a service manual that should be all filled in by a dealer as when under warranty everybody tends to keep this bit up, for a relatively new engine.

If it's anything like the optimax range for the mercury then they can tell exactly how the engine has been used with diagnostic equipment.

Not sure on local dealer download.......what sort of thing were you expecting?

I would have thought for that age of engine you'd get the standard smart craft guages which will tell you everyhting you need to know. Is this engine still attached to a boat?

Mine just says hydraulic steering, can find out the make the next time I dig out the paperwork/go down and have a look if you like?

With the Mercury I got a special screw in thing that attaches to a hose with the engine manual and gumpf which acts as your fresh water muff. Not too sure on the details of use as I haven't tried it yet.

The only other thing I'd suggest that if it's attached to a boat then go for a spin with it. If it's not then make sure you have a friend who is a marine mechanic who can go and look at it with you or if it's from a dealer make sure that there is some comeback if it breaks down immediatley.

Hope that helps

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Old 26 January 2005, 03:06   #12
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Thanks Pettel

The engine is attached to the boat, and i understand that smart gauges are fitted, so these by the sound of it will show accutate hours.

I have downloaded a list of mercury dealers off the web and have found the one nearest to the vendor.

A trip out in the boat is planned - to confirm no problems.

Length of warranty? some have suggested 3 years for the Mercury is it likely that the Mariner would also be 3 years?

Thanks for the information - ill let you know what I find/outcome.

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Old 26 January 2005, 03:23   #13
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mariner and mercury are two year warrenty only

my one runs out in march this year


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Old 26 January 2005, 03:55   #14
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Merc & Mariner have the same warranties, after all they are the same engine but the Optimax's have 3yr warranties whereas the normal 2-strokes only have 2yrs. Get any good stuff in the states? New prop??
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gave up on the prop

wanted to go for a spare alloy one as the repairs by steel developments seem to have sorted the problem i had

the alloy prop was $143.00 which is about the same as england

but the trophy sport was only $320.00 which was half price

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Mine just says hydraulic steering, can find out the make the next time I dig out the paperwork/go down and have a look if you like?

With the Mercury I got a special screw in thing that attaches to a hose with the engine manual and gumpf which acts as your fresh water muff. Not too sure on the details of use as I haven't tried it yet.


Hope that helps

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There is no recomended steering for any outboard - so long as it's rated to the horsepower of the engine it should be fine - I just happen to like / use Seastar steering but some people prefer cable steering for racing for instance.

Don't use the screw in thing instead of muffs - the water pump doesn't get any water, and will overheat and become useless after a while!
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Old 26 January 2005, 11:18   #17
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There is no recomended steering for any outboard - so long as it's rated to the horsepower of the engine it should be fine - I just happen to like / use Seastar steering but some people prefer cable steering for racing for instance.

Don't use the screw in thing instead of muffs - the water pump doesn't get any water, and will overheat and become useless after a while!

Now you've said seastar I think that's what I got!

Thanks for the tip on the screw in thing.......it's a good job I'd been bone idle and not bothered to fluch it with water yet!!
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If i were you i would call E.P Barrus (01869 363636) they will give you the answer, My mate does all the warranty claims for the uk. Ask to speak to Alan Surman.
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EP Barrus were very understanding and we have agreed to split the cost, one third me, two thirds Barrus. Amicable conclusion. Thank you.

The learning for me (and for everyone else) is to ensure 'warantee work' is fully covered in advance of the work commencing to avoid the argument taking place afterwards with the agent. Seems lots of grey areas.

However the principle is still correct, warrantee work should covers parts and labour. The exclusions are lifting in and out of the water, travel, and work required to enable access to undertake repairs.

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hi
Slightly off the original thread - but still related.

I am viewing a boat with Mariner 225 optimax 2002 this Thursday 27th. what should I be looking for in respect of service documention or on the unit itself. Does it have an inbuilt memory of the hours run? local dealer download? do these engines have a standard set of instruments when new?
for this size engine what hydraulic steering should be fitted?
Are 'muffs' available for this size engine to it to be run out of the water and for flushing after use?

Mariner dealer directory for servicing and future spares?

anything else you think relevent.

thanks (in advance)
Paul

Paul,
*Check to see that the injectors have had the recall carried out on them. They should either be blue or have blue collars around them. If this hasn't been done I`d insist its done before you pay. Its about a grand for the parts alone otherwise.

*Also worth checking the trim/tilt motor. When it runs up it should do it at a healthy speed and not slow down (unless its on the trim section!)

*I always ask that the engine is not run in anticipation of a viewing. This way you can see if the batt and electrics are healthy.
*Also look to see if the skeg has been repainted. It can sometimes show a less than carefull owner.
*Plus a spanking new prop can mean its been hammered into something, damaging the gearbox but you`d never know.

*Also make sure its got OPTIMAX oil in it rather than the normal Premium 2 Cycle oil. (its a different colour) as it might invalidate your warranty.

*Obviously make sure the transom aint cracked and ask for everything paperwork related, particularly the warranty chit. (its about A6 size)

Plus if the guy says the trailer has just been serviced ask for the reciepts.

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