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Old 17 December 2014, 09:16   #21
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My 6.5m does over 40 knots with 150hp. (Optimax).

I'd say 150hp is sufficient.

It is often said that the 140hp Suzuki is less than 140hp.

My boat when new was rigged with a 90hp 2 stroke which was sufficient for the first owner - and probably a better balanced boat for it.

Is there a sub 200kg 200hp?
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I'd say 150hp is sufficient.
"Sufficient" is a a subjective judgment and if it was me I'd want to leave prospective buyers in no doubt that it was "sufficient" with perhaps a little margin for grins.

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It is often said that the 140hp Suzuki is less than 140hp.
That may well be true but it's 12kilos lighter than the 150 merc, and almost 40kilos lighter than the Suzi 150! The Suzi 175 is the same block as the 150 so for me it was a choice between the 140 and 175.

Don't get me wrong, I'm no Suzuki nut-hugger, I think you'd need to make the same considerations with any make.

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My boat when new was rigged with a 90hp 2 stroke which was sufficient for the first owner - and probably a better balanced boat for it.
The Stormforce 6.1 we demoed had a 100hp Suz on, and I'm sure that would have been fine, but when you're shelling out for a new boa you're looking for something in between "fine" and "I've spent a bunch of money I didn't need to".

It's a tricky one for sure. Those new Merc look good, if I was re-engining Clamchowder I'd be having a long hard look at 'em.
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Old 17 December 2014, 11:54   #24
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I am sure the sooz's are good motors, i don't know if there is such a thing as a bad motor anymore?????

i guess you could argue the 150hp sooz SHOULD be more reliable than the 175 as it is the same kit with less power?. Why the merc appealed to me really, big block without the supercharger gubbins and it is a wee bit lighter (20lbs over a sooz ish, big deal)

If the right boat came along without having to buy new then i'd happily consider any 4 stroke of 150hp upwards, problem is there is nothing about that takes my fancy. The only engines out for me are 2 strokes of any kind, now and again you hear of 2 strokes being banned on loch lomond, i'd rather not take the chance with an opti/etec etc regardless of the emission claims. They tend not to both with things such as common sense getting in the way of preservation.

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Have you had a look at the REDBAY Stormforce 6.5 for sale at Euro Yachts Largs 2009 with 150 4st - 1/2 the price of a new boat package???
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too late to that party dude...sold it.

be nice if places updated their stock list.

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too late to that party dude...sold it.

be nice if places updated their stock list.

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Not sure you missed much there tbh.
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clam, i have quotes for osprey, RC and redbay all right here. just a case of making mind up i guess................oh and the tough part :-)

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"Sufficient" is a a subjective judgment and if it was me I'd want to leave prospective buyers in no doubt that it was "sufficient" with perhaps a little margin for grins.



That may well be true but it's 12kilos lighter than the 150 merc, and almost 40kilos lighter than the Suzi 150! The Suzi 175 is the same block as the 150 so for me it was a choice between the 140 and 175.

Don't get me wrong, I'm no Suzuki nut-hugger, I think you'd need to make the same considerations with any make.



The Stormforce 6.1 we demoed had a 100hp Suz on, and I'm sure that would have been fine, but when you're shelling out for a new boa you're looking for something in between "fine" and "I've spent a bunch of money I didn't need to".

It's a tricky one for sure. Those new Merc look good, if I was re-engining Clamchowder I'd be having a long hard look at 'em.
It's all a tricky choice. I have to say that I'm generally in the camp of fitting the max allowed. Had a 4m searider with 50hp and then a 5.4m searider with a 90hp and now 6.5m scorpion with 150hp. On the other hand, the current 4m Searider goes very well with its 30hp.

Have been looking at what engines might be suitable to replace the 150hp opti and like the look of the 150hp Merc 4 stroke. It SHOULD have good torque being a 3 litre displacement. But part of me says that if I'm shelling out 11k then I should have "more" than I had before - not just the same but newer!

It's about time mercury brought out a 175hp or 200hp using the same basic tech as their 150hp.
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I assume the mid verado range will get the chop in the foreseeable future and going down this route up to 200hp or so. It makes no sense to dev this new engine only to have the 150. I would guess over 225 they will keep the verado.

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