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Old 01 August 2016, 10:12   #31
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Thanks for all your advice. The plan is to get a compression test hopefully this weekend.

In the interim and with me being the impatient person I am, I wanted to have another go at fuelling the cylinders directly - my only attempt was a little hasty with minimal precision (I still feel it's a probable fuelling issue) but I want to see if she fires.

My question for the forum, and I know its not necessarily 'best practice', but how's best to put fuel directly into the cylinders and give it a pull.

I spoke with a chap earlier on another matter, he suggested to squirt (with a syringe if poss) 15ml 2 stroke oil in each cylinder and a squirt of easy start in the carb. I thought this seemed a little strange, hence my post.

I look forward to hearing your tried and tested methods of success!

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Old 01 August 2016, 12:08   #32
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I just put a very small cap full of mixed two stroke in each pot plugs in and pull you might find you pull few times until the plugs dry if you put too much in. Trouble with putting straight down the carb is if the reed block is nacked(solid ) that's why I asked if it had been for a swim?
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Old 01 August 2016, 12:50   #33
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Ok you seem determined to get this going I will give you that, get a 18v cordless drill a socket to fit the nut on the flywheel and a door spindel (from between the handels) turn it over useing the drill, along with some mixed fuel into each pot, remember to reorque the flywheel nut back down after as when the drill stops the nut come's undone, good luck.
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Old 01 August 2016, 13:37   #34
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Sorry, I don't know anything about engines .... but I've read your post !
you say its got a weak spark !
Have you spent the £4-£6 on new plugs (they might even fit your other OB in which case it will be no expense as they can be used later for these !)
The next thing I would be checking is the kill switch / safety landyard switches for shorts (especially given that it says the tiller arm & electrics have ben played with) !!
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Old 02 August 2016, 12:42   #35
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So I had an absolute Eureka moment!!!! Thanks for all your help and advice it really has been much appreciated, I'm pleased to say she runs (and sounds pretty good too!)

I'm waiting on a compression and spark tester to arrive in the post, I was in the process of swapping over the bracket on the side of the block from remote controls to a manual tiller when I noticed a bit of gasket in the tray. On closer inspection, the cover on the side must have been messed with when the previous owner installed controls, the gasket was shot and half missing.

I cleaned it up pretty good and slapped some silicone gasket in its place until I order a replacement. Sure enough bolted back up and fitted the cable bracket and a simple fuel delivery system, couple of pulls and she runs a dream. I'd taken a few pictures for you all to see but they appear too large and won't upload - any easy remedy?

All in all I'm pretty chuffed, a few other bits and bobs I need to sort but I think it's all easy enough with the parts I have.

Had I ran a compression test I think this would have been way down on both cylinders. Lesson learn. Thumb over the cylinder really isn't a good indicator of adequate compression!

Thanks again for staying with me! Next up is a service and impeller change, doesn't seem to be pumping water brilliantly so I'll browse the threads.
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Excellent result... sometimes stuff does work out.
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So I had an absolute Eureka moment!!!! Thanks for all your help and advice it really has been much appreciated, I'm pleased to say she runs (and sounds pretty good too!)



I'm waiting on a compression and spark tester to arrive in the post, I was in the process of swapping over the bracket on the side of the block from remote controls to a manual tiller when I noticed a bit of gasket in the tray. On closer inspection, the cover on the side must have been messed with when the previous owner installed controls, the gasket was shot and half missing.



I cleaned it up pretty good and slapped some silicone gasket in its place until I order a replacement. Sure enough bolted back up and fitted the cable bracket and a simple fuel delivery system, couple of pulls and she runs a dream. I'd taken a few pictures for you all to see but they appear too large and won't upload - any easy remedy?



All in all I'm pretty chuffed, a few other bits and bobs I need to sort but I think it's all easy enough with the parts I have.



Had I ran a compression test I think this would have been way down on both cylinders. Lesson learn. Thumb over the cylinder really isn't a good indicator of adequate compression!



Thanks again for staying with me! Next up is a service and impeller change, doesn't seem to be pumping water brilliantly so I'll browse the threads.

Good result

Your outboard will have a thermostat so will only pump water properly when it's Upton full running temperature
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Oh that's interesting! It flows great at first and occasionally stops completely - I didn't run it for long in fear of over hearing.

My 6hp mariner, which pretty much looks identical (although older) flows like a fountain as soon as it fires up.

I had an interesting chat with Barrus.co.uk earlier, they confirmed that the ID No. Is from a 2008 10hp, however it does have an older 15hp powerhead. Hopefully this won't prove problematic in the long term
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Oh that's interesting! It flows great at first and occasionally stops completely - I didn't run it for long in fear of over hearing.

My 6hp mariner, which pretty much looks identical (although older) flows like a fountain as soon as it fires up.

I had an interesting chat with Barrus.co.uk earlier, they confirmed that the ID No. Is from a 2008 10hp, however it does have an older 15hp powerhead. Hopefully this won't prove problematic in the long term

I'm fairly sure that both the 10hp and 15hp have thermostats so either way it should have one, not sure why it would flow when cold then occasionally stop though, unless thermostat is sticking open until warm

I'm sure it won't be too difficult to diagnose "if" there's is a problem
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