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Old 08 December 2004, 06:37   #1
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Likely damage running over anchor chain...

I've been offered a 4 year old yamaha 50 (incidently attached to a 4 year old commercial spec searider 4m asking 6000 sounds a lot?)

The engine is supposed to be light use as a tender to a charter yacht - however seller was honest enough to mention that a friend had taken it out and sheared all the blades from the prop whilst enjoying a tussle with an anchor chain - he reckoned new prop and impellor have been fitted, but could the damage be more extensive than this? (I am assuming standard alloy prop here)

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I ve seen the searider you are referring to on boats and outboards, 6k seems a lot of money. Did he say which charter yacht it was tender to, always worth doing some reaserch.

Re the prop I think if all the blades have been sheared off it has probably damaged the gearbox. I would get it surveyed or checked over by a marine engineer.

You could try draining the gearbox oil and see if it feels gritty like or if bits of cogs come out the drain plug its buggered! Does it select gears at the moment. Nice looking boat if I remember rightly, if it was a bargin price I'd risk it but its well over priced.


This 2003 5.4 came on today:http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/F51829/ Probably better value.

Worth waiting for someone like Tue or Pete7 to answer this post cos they know what they are talking about!

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Agree with Alex, it could be okay or it could be a pile of pooh, difficult to know.

If its a 4 stroke I think one went through e bay recently at 2.5k with no bids.

Crayside marine have a mariner 50 4 stroke at 2k. Dealt with them in the past, straight guy.

http://www.craysidemarine.co.uk/

Does seem a little pricey, Ed is selling a little Tornado 4.5 on the 'for sale' forum with new tubes for much less than that. Okay its a 2 stoke but nice engine, rumoured to have been designed by Yamaha.

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Is this the boat in question George:
http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/F46076


That tornado is a very good buy, should go quite well to!
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I've been offered a 4 year old yamaha 50 (incidently attached to a 4 year old commercial spec searider 4m asking 6000 sounds a lot?)

The engine is supposed to be light use as a tender to a charter yacht - however seller was honest enough to mention that a friend had taken it out and sheared all the blades from the prop whilst enjoying a tussle with an anchor chain - he reckoned new prop and impellor have been fitted, but could the damage be more extensive than this? (I am assuming standard alloy prop here)

thanks in advance
If it was an insurance claim that I was assessing I would want to have a look inside to make sure that the gears are not damaged.
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Thanks a lot - very sensible advice - yes it's the one on boats and outboards I spoke to the guy earlier and he is "very inflexible on price" so I agree it's overpriced especially as it's on a bramber trailer...

The tornado looks interesting - am I right this version is only a medium V hull? bit less seaworthy therefore? I had started to have my heart set on a searider because of all the good press from the likes of Rogue wave!
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I think Tornados are bloody good too...don't quote me on that though
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The tornado looks interesting - am I right this version is only a medium V hull? bit less seaworthy therefore? I had started to have my heart set on a searider because of all the good press from the likes of Rogue wave!
Their web site says variable, so deep v at the front going to medium v at the stern, but the photo from Ed suggests thats it still has quite a nice shape. If it was my money then I would be driving down to see him and he should be able to take you for a trial in her.


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As nice as that searider maybe and in that condition its still only 4metres long, i got for a bigger boat for the - just my opinion
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thanks pete - I've mailed ribraff to find out more about the engine - I had a mariner 40 blow up over the summer so treading carefully with secondhand outboards...
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