Law on small two strokes?

lightning · 08 September 2017, 07:40

What's the current legal position on buying new two stroke engines offshore?

My friend has a small RIB with an old, unreliable Yamaha 25hp. There's a company still advertising new Tohatsu two strokes (such as 25/30hp and the 9.8) from Alderney.

When l bought my 9.8 from them in 2012 it still seemed to be OK. The company website is no longer active but if you email them they can still obtain the engines.

The 4 stroke alternative is too heavy, nearly 70kg which is over the maximum transom weight.

Pikey Dave · 08 September 2017, 08:16

Buy one, put it on, say nowt. No-one is EVER going to check.

Fenlander · 08 September 2017, 09:03

I got a quote from them for a Tohatsu 18hp and it was just too expensive.

Is the new Yamaha 25hp 4-stroke too heavy at 57kg?

jeffstevens763@g · 08 September 2017, 10:19

you can buy em if you're a company i think ron hale marine sell them and barnet marine

for info
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-YAMAHA...item238cfcf1b4

Solent-Salted · 08 September 2017, 10:24

Commercial use only,

Yamaha have pulled out of the market, we bought a 25 2-stroke earlier this year and were told that they were pulling the plug on them due to increasing regulation.

Great engine ;o)

jwalker · 08 September 2017, 11:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pikey Dave

Buy one, put it on, say nowt. No-one is EVER going to check.

+1 I'm with Pikey Dave....

Poly · 08 September 2017, 12:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwalker

+1 I'm with Pikey Dave....

And in any case it is the seller who is breaking any rules not the buyer (of course if you subsequently sell it then that could fall to you - but as a one off second hand seller you will be even less interesting to bother with). I'm told that any dealer can supply you if you have company headed paper and a Vat number.

Tim M · 08 September 2017, 13:03

Very easy to buy in Europe where they don't really seem to care. Plus, isn't Alderney outside of the EU anyway which is where this law applies?? (Also means you'll get hit with VAT etc when you import it unless you pop over there and bring it back in a suitcase!)

Ginkgo · 09 September 2017, 08:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim M

Very easy to buy in Europe where they don't really seem to care. Plus, isn't Alderney outside of the EU anyway which is where this law applies?? (Also means you'll get hit with VAT etc when you import it unless you pop over there and bring it back in a suitcase!)

Any recomendations of EU dealers willing to ship to UK?

lightning · 09 September 2017, 12:31

Mainbrayce in Alderney sell the Tohatsu range.

You can email them or try the phone, there no longer seems to be a website. As mentioned above you have to pay VAT unless you can collect the engine.
They quoted £2200+VAT for the Tohatsu 25hp.

lightning · 10 September 2017, 09:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fenlander

I got a quote from them for a Tohatsu 18hp and it was just too expensive.

Is the new Yamaha 25hp 4-stroke too heavy at 57kg?

Not sure, thanks for the info l will tell him.

Lee1 · 14 September 2017, 20:28

Why not hunt for a mint used one? Then no regulations to deal with