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Old 04 January 2004, 14:38   #11
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If you have a hard to start diesel (boat or car) then:
you have a clapped starter motor, clapped battery, or a clapped engine.
Otherwise it should be first go`ish, apart from no fuel or really really really cold conditions (sub arctic).
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Old 04 January 2004, 17:34   #12
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WHERE AND WHEN DID HUMBER SAY 46KNOTS?
Jono - Ive just found the article, its from 'Divemagazine' and was given to me along with hundreds of other magazine articles by Humber.

They have a test of a 6.3m Humber ocean Pro and claim that it does 45 knots with a 25in pitch prop.

I dont believe it at all but it'd be interesting to see how Mike C's boat did with a 25 inch prop.
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Old 04 January 2004, 18:59   #13
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The volvo kad32dp is also interesting because it has a supercharger. But it is a bit bigger, heavier, and more expensive.
I disagree -- the fact that the whole KAD range is different, interesting is the fact that they all have compressors on them...
This gives, by far an enhanced much more power -- low end of the revs range, and is invaluable for heavy loads, getting out of tricky situation in a hurry.
the supercharger is an added bonus -- my 7m with a kad 32 in it can easily get going to a happy easy cruising speed with 14 people in it... thats where the volvos are a1.
after sales ... choose carefully where you buy it from, i have had no problems.
45 knots with the mercruiser in a 6m -- Cach ( gaelic For Sh*t)

Has no-one had any experience with the new VW inboards?? they look great ???

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Old 05 January 2004, 04:36   #14
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Hi folks

The 120HP was one engine I looked at in a Humber before I bought Ribcraft.

Went for a spin in it at Rixed 2001, in their new 6.3M (extra wet) Extream RIB. This was compaired with their 7M with a 150HP outboard on the same day.

I thought the 7.0 with the 150HP outboard peformance was OK but the 120HP in the 6.3 was marginal and that was with it being run flat out, with little fuel & 3 adults onboard.

Out of the two the 150HP was faster. I didnt have a GPS on me but the 120HP did not feel like 45Kts, more like 35Kts

I wanted Humber to quote on the KAD32 in the 7.0 but they refused.
In my opinion the 120HP is OK in 6.0/6.5M class boat when loaded light, but would not be sure about anything bigger. A lot depends on how easy the hull is to drive & the useage.

For offshore I would not like to have to run flatout all the time with nothing in reserve.

I know that Ribcraft recomended at least the KAD32 in their 6.8M

I ended up with a 7.8 with 240HP Yanmar, but have always thought the 120HP would be a interesting twin installation for somthing this size.

The new ranges of small compact diesels are looking good, but have no track recod at present.

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Old 05 January 2004, 07:47   #15
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Thanks I'm finding all very helpfull
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Old 05 January 2004, 07:52   #16
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If you are running a 170hp diesel now in a 5.85, why on earth do you want to consider a 120hp in a 7 metre boat?
It's a jet drive. Although i have no experience of these, i beleive they are quite inefficient and, although i am purely guessing here, would this not be more like a 120hp on a prop drive? In which case getting a bit bigger boat (6.3 / 6.5) would be OKay.

IMHO (with little experience, just listening to what people are saying) 7mtr is too big for the 1.7li 120hp Mercruiser. A 7mtr boat is also HUGE to tow, even behind a Range Rover or something, which is why i went for a 6mtr boat in the end infact, worth considereing.

As far as i know Andre is yet to know if you can ski behind his boat, wort considering from what you initially said.

RIBex might me a good opportunity for you, how about contacting all teh manufacturers and seeing what they'll have with a smelly old diesel in there?
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Remember, your outboard will have it's HP quoted at the prop. The diesel wont. It's 112hp at the prop.

Just a bit of info for you. Fitting 2 of these was a very seriously considered option for me. I eventually didn't go that route, partly because the engines are relatively wide and they would need to be shoe-horned in. Wider, if fact, than my single Volvo.
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As far as i know Andre is yet to know if you can ski behind his boat, wort considering from what you initially said.
In which case i might take a wetsuit and wakeboard down to trial andre's boat!

Nah, Andres boat will have no problem at all towing a skier. My 5m rib with a 60hp yamaha towed a 16 stone bloke on skis!!!
it was a long pull.....but it did it. Wakeboarding requires even less power.
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I disagree -- the fact that the whole KAD range is different, interesting is the fact that they all have compressors on them...

I think you are agreeing with me. The volvo KADs have a supercharger (compressor) as well as a turbocharger.
Therefore giving better low rev response and power.

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In which case i might take a wetsuit and wakeboard down to trial andre's boat!

Nah, Andres boat will have no problem at all towing a skier. My 5m rib with a 60hp yamaha towed a 16 stone bloke on skis!!!
it was a long pull.....but it did it. Wakeboarding requires even less power.
In an earlier thread started by Georgec this subject was discussed. Georgec came down to Littlehampton but unfortunately Mike C who was going to bring some skis that day was unable to come.

This is however what georgec had to say after his visit:

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MeMe your hat is safe.
I was certainly impressed with the brief run which Andre kindly arranged, and following that I finally managed a tug behind a diesel powered rig this weekend. I have to say it is slow in pulling out, and top speed is just sufficent for slaloming ,but the boats weight does compensate as there is no material loss of speed when crossing the wake. The set up was same as Andre's 1.7 mercrusier with 21'' stainless prop.
Not one for serious watersking buffs, but for an old crusier who still fancies the occasional scoot it's a good compromise.
Andre, many thanks for your time the other week, and if you decide on Scotland next summer, get in touch.
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When I get back from my hols in the sun that is 1 feb I will for sure get my Seahawk back on the water so David/Harry start polishing your skis. Will be in touch.

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