Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
 
Old 03 June 2016, 22:30   #1
Member
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: denny
Boat name: breezy
Make: northcraft
Length: 6m +
Engine: honda 150
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 888
RIBase
how fast should it go

I've got a brig 5m rib with a honda bf75 on it the revs i think go up to about 5100-5200 with the throttle pushed way forward as far as it will go and the most i could get out of it is 32 knots on the gps this was going with the tide going out on loch etive does this sound ok as I've read that these engines should be 6000 rpm max i don't know the size of the prop
__________________
breezeblock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04 June 2016, 09:05   #2
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Retford
Boat name: Spy-sea-one
Make: Excel 435
Length: 4m +
Engine: Suzuki Outboard/25/4
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 7,453
RIBase
Size should be stamped on the prop looks like you could go up in pitch

Cheers
__________________
jeffstevens763@g is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04 June 2016, 21:04   #3
Member
 
Pikey Dave's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 11,881
RIBase
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffstevens763@g View Post
?........ looks like you could go up in pitch

Cheers

Down surely??


Sh1t happens
__________________
Rule#2: Never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you down to his level & then beat you with experience.
Rule#3: Tha' can't educate pork.
Rule#4:Don't feed the troll
Pikey Dave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04 June 2016, 22:06   #4
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Leicester
Length: 5m +
Engine: 135hp Mercury
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 1,409
If it's this one then your WOT range is 5000-6000 rpm so you're right at the bottom end.
Honda BF75 and BF90 Outboard Engines | 75 and 90 hp 4 Stroke Motor Specs and Features

Purely as an example, if you were achieving your 5200 with a 23" pitch prop then going to a 21" pitch should increase your WOT rpm reading to around 5500/5600 & a 19" pitch to around 5800/6000. Each 1" pitch change will change the rpm by 150 to 200 rpm.
Bear in mind that you should carry out any test runs with the boat normally loaded. You do need to know what RPM you are achieving & what pitch the prop is.

There are a number of prop calculator sites on the net so you might want to find one & enter your details into it to see what's recommended.
__________________
paintman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04 June 2016, 22:33   #5
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Royal Wootton Bassett
Length: 8m +
Engine: 250
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 8,041
Quote:
Originally Posted by paintman View Post
If it's this one then your WOT range is 5000-6000 rpm so you're right at the bottom.
Honda BF75 and BF90 Outboard Engines | 75 and 90 hp 4 Stroke Motor Specs and Features

Purely as an example, if you were achieving your 5200 with a 23" pitch prop then going to a 21" pitch should increase your WOT rpm reading to around 5500/5600 & a 19" pitch to around 5800/6000. Each 1" pitch change will change the rpm by 150 to 200 rpm.
Bear in mind that you should carry out any test runs with the boat normally loaded. You do need to know what RPM you are achieving & what pitch the prop is.

There are a number of prop calculator sites on the net so you might want to find one & enter your details into it to see what's recommended.
^ +1

You also need to be trimmed out correctly, be sure to test this at the correct trim before buying new prop. also check if there's water stuck in the hull or crap on the hull etc
__________________
whisper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05 June 2016, 06:47   #6
Member
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: denny
Boat name: breezy
Make: northcraft
Length: 6m +
Engine: honda 150
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 888
RIBase
thanks for replies as a matter of interest what do similar set ups achieve the spec that was posted is the same as my outboard it does say in the spec that max power is at 5500 rpm so i think i should be reducing the size/pitch of prop to get the rpm up cheers
__________________
breezeblock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05 June 2016, 08:11   #7
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Leicester
Length: 5m +
Engine: 135hp Mercury
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 1,409
Need to know what size & material prop you currently have fitted.
Look for one of the online prop selectors, you'll see that they give a number of different targets - e.g acceleration, good allround etc - & prop recommendations can vary.
This is Mercury's - bear in mind it will only list the props they make.
https://www.mercurymarine.com/en/us/...tor/#/step-one
__________________
paintman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05 June 2016, 09:12   #8
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Royal Wootton Bassett
Length: 8m +
Engine: 250
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 8,041
how fast should it go

From a very wide 5.45m with a merc 75 four stroke we get 30 knots 4 up with a 17" it came with a chewed up 15" but it was over reving.

Also changed the fuel pumps and fuel system from the tank to the pumps, cleaned and balanced the 4 carbs.

We have antifoul that will come off one day when I feel like it. But first I'm going to remove the Dolphins on the leg as they seem to do more harm than good.

A 30 knot 4 seater is perfect for us even though I could go up to a 115hp, however if I really wanted some more power I could change the carbs as that's the only difference between the 75 and 90? But the fuel consumption is excellent with the 75, possibly the most fuel efficient boat I've owned

Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByRIB Net1465117922.069229.jpg
Views:	222
Size:	78.3 KB
ID:	113443


www.customrib.co.uk
__________________
whisper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05 June 2016, 16:51   #9
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Retford
Boat name: Spy-sea-one
Make: Excel 435
Length: 4m +
Engine: Suzuki Outboard/25/4
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 7,453
RIBase
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave View Post
Down surely??


Sh1t happens
Stand corrected got my up in revs mixed with pitch yes down
__________________
jeffstevens763@g is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05 June 2016, 17:49   #10
Member
 
MatFromPoland's Avatar
 
Country: Poland
Town: WARSAW
Boat name: T1
Make: HIGHFIELD OM540DL
Length: 5m +
Engine: EVINRUDE 115 HO
MMSI: 261026640
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 612
Your engine has gear ratio 2,33
RPM 5200
Slip 10%

So it looks like you can have 19" pitch prop:
RPM 5200
pitch prop 19
gear r. 2,33
slip % 10
knots 33

If you change to 17" and reach 5500 RPM you can have lower top speed:
RPM 5500
pitch prop 17
gear r. 2,33
slip % 10
knots 30,57811159

If you go easy to plane not sure if there is a reason to change PROP.
Check water in bilge/under the deck.
Inspect fuel line (for example change fuel filter if you have any)

33 knots is really reasonable high speed.
In this boat size on the Sea you use 25 knots or less
__________________
MatFromPoland is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 June 2016, 15:31   #11
Member
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: Wildheart
Make: Humber/Delta Seasafe
Length: 5m +
Engine: Merc 60 Clamshell
MMSI: 235068449
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 4,670
Also bear in mind the diameter of the prop also affects the RPM......


FWIW, I'm 60Hp, 5m and the difference in literally a tap or two of the trim switch can make or loose 4 knots.

E.G on Monday I had it running at something like 4800 rpm, getting about 20 knts. I trimmed up a tiny amount, didn't move the throttle, and next thing I'm doing 5300rpm, 25 knots and throttled back a bit for a quieter / more economic run!



If you were going with the tide on Etive shouldn't you have been doing about 108 knots?
__________________
9D280 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 June 2016, 16:43   #12
Member
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: denny
Boat name: breezy
Make: northcraft
Length: 6m +
Engine: honda 150
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 888
RIBase
i remembered to check the prop when i was over at the boat doing some bits an bobs to it and the prop is 12.5 x 19 so the 32 knots i was getting out of it isn't that far off the mark to be honest i was quite happy with this as its fast enough
__________________
breezeblock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11 June 2016, 08:06   #13
Member
 
Iankristy's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Scotland
Boat name: Clyde adventurer
Make: Humber
Length: 8m +
Engine: Twin Merc 150 4str
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 472
To check speed accurately you need to go in opposite directions and take the average 👍
__________________
Iankristy is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




All times are GMT. The time now is 22:28.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.