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Old 05 July 2005, 07:28   #1
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honda 225 vtec

90% iam going for the honda 225... any one have some bad experience with the hondas?
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Old 05 July 2005, 07:42   #2
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Got one on our RIB, excellent engines, only problem I have had is a dodgy sensor, replaced under warranty and the rev counter has stopped working- need to take it back in.
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Old 05 July 2005, 09:18   #3
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Brambles had several problems with his Honda 225 vtec, if i recall he traded it in for a 250 e-tec in the end.
I don't know the details but it may be worth pm'ing Brambles who posts on here.

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Old 06 July 2005, 06:58   #4
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I have no axe to grand here but i have a new boat comming in the winter
and my biggest dissicion is the engine i also wanted a Honda 225 with the five year warrenty etc,etc. but after many PMs on this subject i have been put off.
I have always been a Yamaha man but we have been told that the new 250 four stroke is not what it should be.
However i called into our local main dealer and could not belive that a Yamaha 250 Two Stoke dose 72 lts an hour aganst the 250 four stroke at 81
The figuers came from his Yamaha book ?.
He also said that Honda are launching a new big engine this year wounder if its worth waiting for.
Have you considered the Susuzi 250 i havant heard a bad thing said about them yet?. Good luck
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Old 06 July 2005, 08:14   #5
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Some good deals on the suzuki as well - but from what people on here have said I would still go for an Etec 250 - the 4 strokes are so heavy!!!
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Old 06 July 2005, 15:01   #6
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Hi,

We have concluded that the problems we experienced with a BF225 were caused by the engine being too low in the water. As far as I know there are no inherent design flaws with this engine, which is being used by many emergency services worldwide.

Based on our experience with BF and the Etec I would summarise them as follows:

Honda BF 225:

Pros:

1. Very smooth and quiet, as befits an engine that is basically a marinised version of the US Honda Accord car engine.

2. Very easy to drive, even if you forget to trim in during a turn you will not experience any cavitation problems.

Cons:
1. The throttle is not as good to use as it looks. Neutral was difficult to find and pontoon manoeuvring was an exercise in forward and reverse lunges. Not pretty!

2. Very heavy.

‘Rude Etec 250:
Pros:

1. Also smooth and quiet. It has a secondary air intake system which mutes the low speed engine noise. Not even a hint of the nuts-and-bolts-shaking in-a-tin-can din you get with older generation 2 strokes.

2. Good performance, fuel economy and emissions.

3. Very light – 55 kgs less than the BF if memory serves me.

4. No servicing for first 3 years.

Cons:

1. The 250 is prone to cavitation problems at low speeds in confused water. If you get the trim wrong you are punished. In fairness, this is a prop problem and the importers are doing their best to resolve it at the moment. This will be covered under warranty.



I am now convinced that if you are in the fortunate position of making the choice, an Etec 2 stroke is (at the moment) the only way to go for large outboards. No doubt Mercury will bring out an upgraded version of theirs shortly to compete. I think the big M have been wrong footed with the Verado project.



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Old 07 July 2005, 04:09   #7
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thank you guys for all the informations you give me
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