 |
|
10 July 2008, 19:53
|
#1
|
|
Member
Country: Ireland
Town: Castlebar
Boat name: Clewless
Make: Valiant DR 490
Length: 4m +
Engine: 60 hp ETEC
MMSI: Awaitng one
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 397
|
Heavy Steering on DR 490 with 60 Hp
I am wondering is it normal for the steering to be heavy when the engine is trimmed in. The steering becomes much lighter once the engine has been trimmed out when I am on the plane. The steering is mechancial not hydraulic
During my PB2 I was told to start with the engine trimmed all the way in.
you thoughts please
TSM
|
|
|
10 July 2008, 20:14
|
#2
|
|
Member
Country: USA
Town: Oakland CA
Length: 3m +
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,979
|
Well, you start out with engine trimmed in to help keep the bow down as the boat tries to climb onto plane. It shouldn't affect steering effort.
As to why this would affect steering, I don't know. Does it happen while sitting still as well? If so, I'd suspect cables being scrunched up or pinched or something similar.
If it doesn't happen except while moving, then I have no idea.
jky
|
|
|
10 July 2008, 21:16
|
#3
|
|
Member
Country: Ireland
Town: Castlebar
Boat name: Clewless
Make: Valiant DR 490
Length: 4m +
Engine: 60 hp ETEC
MMSI: Awaitng one
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 397
|
The steering is light when not moving it only seems to be heavy trimmed in and under load. I just checked it and the steering is light when there is no load
|
|
|
10 July 2008, 21:34
|
#4
|
|
RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - England
Town: Swindon
Boat name: WhiteNoise/Dominator
Make: Ballistic 7.8/SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Opti 225/Yam 85
MMSI: 239050687/235055163
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 8,881
|
Is there any play in the steering bushes on the engine?
__________________
Need spares,consoles,consumables,hire,training or even a new boat?
Please click HERE and HERE and support our Trade Members.
|
|
|
10 July 2008, 21:35
|
#5
|
|
Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Length: 5m +
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 10
|
Fairly normal I am afraid. I have a pair of DR 490s and a V 520 here and all have this steering issue. Although it is noticable on all outfits not just valiants to some extent. Correct trimming will help you out, If there is an indication that this problem is getting worse then the steering may need attention. Steering may be loose when not under load but stiffen when forces act on it.
I would have a look through timming your outboard and see how you get on.
|
|
|
11 July 2008, 08:11
|
#6
|
|
Member
Country: Ireland
Town: Castlebar
Boat name: Clewless
Make: Valiant DR 490
Length: 4m +
Engine: 60 hp ETEC
MMSI: Awaitng one
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 397
|
Hi minimerc
The engine and steering are new so I dont think there is an issue with the equipment. I am wondering am I correct to start off with the enging trimmed in?
TSM
|
|
|
11 July 2008, 11:02
|
#7
|
|
Trade member
Country: UK - England
Town: Salcombe, Devon, UK
Boat name: BananaShark
Make: BananaShark
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2xYanmar 260 diesels
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 3,605
|
Quite normal for many setups - experiment! Try and find a happy medium between steering load and the bow pointing up to the sky when getting on the plane. The problem is every boat is different with props, engine height, weight distribution engine HP etc, so there are no hard and fast rules.
The general rule as your instructor told you is to trim in to get the boat on the plane as easy as possible, but vary the trim angles in small increments until you get a result - hope that helps?
__________________
Cookee
Originally Posted by Zippy
When a boat looks that good who needs tubes!!!
|
|
|
11 July 2008, 11:39
|
#8
|
|
Member
Country: Netherlands
Town: Holland
Make: Brig F360S
Length: 3m +
Engine: Yamaha 70hp
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 85
|
Heavy steering indicates too much drag... When you're engine is trimmed in all the way it sticks deeper into the water, you can try to raise the engine one hole on the stern, that may dramatically help...
|
|
|
12 July 2008, 02:32
|
#9
|
|
Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Length: 5m +
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 10
|
TSM
Yes trim down to get on plane (Down for power up for speed)
As suggested you could lift the engine a bit, may help, I have my engine on the v 520 up two holes. Goes faster, less steering issues but prop a bit close to the surface so ventalates a bit at times. It suits me that way.
I would suggest you suck it and see, dont be to keen to alter your rig untill you get a few miles with it. I would think with a 60 on a 490 you wont have any problems getting on the plane so just dont trim all the way down. The trim up as soon as your boat goes flat. In small steps.
Have you got the 490 with the small steering wheel? One of mine has and this makes the problem seem worse than it is.
I could go on about trim all day but the best thing to do is experement and dont be to quick to change the trim. select an angle and see what your boat does throughout the manovers. Then alter a small amount and try again.
Dont worry about it. Just enjoy.
|
|
|
27 October 2009, 11:40
|
#10
|
|
Member
Country: Ireland
Town: Castlebar
Boat name: Clewless
Make: Valiant DR 490
Length: 4m +
Engine: 60 hp ETEC
MMSI: Awaitng one
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 397
|
Heavy Steering cured
I adjusted the trim tab (on the cav plate behine the prop) the steering is no relativy light when fully trimmed in. In a choppy seas the engine fully trimmed in makes the rib much more comfortable to use. As a result I now can travell at higher speeds with comfort in choppy seas.
TSM
|
|
|
 |
|
| Thread Tools |
Search this Thread |
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
Recent Discussions |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Copyright 2002-2012 Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.
All times are GMT. The time now is 23:59.