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Old 18 April 2007, 08:41   #21
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Just spoken to the great people at Glasplies - they say a special resin should ideally be used BUT there are plenty of people who have used just normal resin for car and motorbike tanks and they have lasted years with no probs at all.

One advantage of fibreglass is they are more flexible so they are less prone to cracking than stainless or ali.
Another good reason to only buy a CE marked boat - regular resin should never under any circumstances be used for fuel tanks - they make a special resin for a reason!

(we have just had to buy a barrel of it so I should know!).
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So what's the difference between ordinary resin and the sort that's ok for fuel tanks?
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Another good reason to only buy a CE marked boat - regular resin should never under any circumstances be used for fuel tanks - they make a special resin for a reason!

(we have just had to buy a barrel of it so I should know!).
From my earlier post

"Just spoken to the great people at Glasplies - they say a special resin should ideally be used BUT there are plenty of people who have used just normal resin for car and motorbike tanks and they have lasted years with no probs at all."

Obviously using the correct stuff is much preffered but I do remember Jason mentioning the name of the stuff and saying they used it so hopefully they did!!!

As CE marking is self regulated does it really provide enough protection?
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So what's the difference between ordinary resin and the sort that's ok for fuel tanks?
....about 2.25/Kg.
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As CE marking is self regulated does it really provide enough protection?
Its not self regulated (it is regulated by trading standards) it is self certified - which is slightly (but importantly) different.

if you have been sold a dodgy boat with non conformant features - then if the supplier won't address the issues trading standards should investigate and take action.
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Err....... trading standards.......Guernsey.........you'd be lucky!

I don't think I have any complaint about the fibreglass, it was just the way the take-off plate had been fitted that seemed to be causing the leak. And my boat does have a CE mark (I think from memory - must check), on a 'home made' plate stuck on the transom. Is it worth the plastic its written on? Does CE marking even have any legal standing in the Channel Islands where we are outside the EU? And what standards does a CE marked boat have to comply with?

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So what's the difference between ordinary resin and the sort that's ok for fuel tanks?
Not being a chemist I couldn't tell you chemically, but what I do know is that it is formulated to resist diesel (that's what we use it for - haven't looked into petrol - especially with all the crap they're putting in it now) and the regular resins aren't! I wouldn't trust anything but the real thing for keeping it's structure properly, either chemically or physically.

Polwart is spot on - we had Trading Standards inspect our boat at the Southampton show last year although it was more of a paperwork thing. No CE marking is a big insurance issue - an insurance company would probably walk away from any claim that involved a non CE marked boat. Of course self certification doesn't mean you will get a fault a perfect boat, but it is allegedly better than nothing!
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Alledgedly being the word for it!!!

Decent companies like yours try hard to comply with it and then others just don't give a damn. Many companies use it as an advertising tool whilst others err on the side of caution. The result is a 4m boat with a B rating and a 9m with a C.

Another problem you have are the little Hitlers at trading standards - they wouldn't know a good boat if it ran over them but they enforce it - as you said all they understand are bits of paper and if they SEEM in order that's all they care about.

Many people(not us) in the computer trade had problems a few years ago. They decided to force small computer companies to apply for CE testing of computers. Now as all the computer parts you buy are CE marked anyway and all you do is assemble them why insist on it? It forced a lot of smaller companies out of business when they weren't hurting anyone.

Another stunt Trading Standards used to pull was companies selling Non Region Coded DVD players. They raided many companies and shut down some very respectable firms. When Tesco started selling them Trading Standards said "We will not be pursuing people over this any more"........
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Right, well then, I've just had a look and there doesn't seem to be any CE marking on my boat but it does have an 'RCD' rating of C. Presumably this is better than nothing! My insurers never asked for any CE proof but then it's only for pleasure use not racing or anything.
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Right, well then, I've just had a look and there doesn't seem to be any CE marking on my boat but it does have an 'RCD' rating of C. Presumably this is better than nothing! My insurers never asked for any CE proof but then it's only for pleasure use not racing or anything.
The RCD rating is what the CE mark would be "certifying". If bought/sold in the CI's then its irrelevant as you aren't part of the EU. If it was for racing then it would have been exempt anyway.
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