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Old 23 September 2005, 13:05   #31
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and I got grumpy when mine hit 47p!!

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Off to Tescos, no not the forecourt, the cooking department, that crisp and fry stuff
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Old 23 September 2005, 15:14   #32
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You could buy a central heating oil tank and get your diesel delivered in bulk. Nothing illegal in that. Whilst it's a bit of a hassle, it's not a major problem to transport 5 or 6 jerry cans to your boat.

Last week I was quoted 33.7p/lt for 1200 lts. You can get a very neat 1200lt tank for about £120. You could buy the fuel and the tank and still have a couple of hundred qwid change rather than paying 64p/lt.
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So I take it there is not any side effects of running your motor on heating oil..? I was lead to believe that there was less “lubricant” in a heating oil. Hence why I have not got the Audi tank filled with the stuff…
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Old 23 September 2005, 16:05   #34
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Er, mdt, read my first sentence again.

Kerosine is possible with a bit of modification but it contains less energy than diesel and it's illegal. Costs just a couple of pennies less than diesel, so there's no point...... at the moment.

Oops, did I say that?
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Old 23 September 2005, 18:07   #35
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So I take it there is not any side effects of running your motor on heating oil..? I was lead to believe that there was less “lubricant” in a heating oil. Hence why I have not got the Audi tank filled with the stuff…
He meant red diesel

Talking of heating oil though it is kerosene which is the same(near enouh) as Jet fuel.

Some armies now have a one fuel policy to cut down on logistics probs - in other words they use jet fuel in tanks and 4x4s etc as well.

In really cold countries they sell winter diesel which is just kerosene!!!

Yes it does lack a little in lubricity compared to diesel but only becomes a problem at high temps like in the gulf. A way to overcome this prob is to add a small amount of atf or cooking oil to the fuel - say 1L per 20L of fuel.

Basically - despite what some people WANT you to believe - there is no prob in using it but it is just as bad as using red diesel - get caught and you are in very deep doo doo!!!
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misleading

Talking of heating oil though it is kerosene which is the same(near enouh) as Jet fuel.


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Heating oil is NOT kerosene( Kerosene -paraffin is the same)
Kerosene and Jet fuel ( Jp4) are the same
Diesel is HEATING OIL
Heating oil has a red dye added to it -to stop it being used for automotive use.

You can run ANY diesel engine on red diesel- it will not be affected by the colour!!!!!!!!! Farrmers are permitted to use red diesel in their tractors

Diesel can be mixed with kerosene - and is done mainly in the winter months
to stop the formation of wax-crystals .Normally 10 to 20% is maximum- but this is mainly history as most diesel-fuel is treated with additives that make it good to -20deg. cent

the real point is to get rid of the red in red diesel......................
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Heating oil is NOT kerosene

Diesel is HEATING OIL

Heating oil has a red dye added to it -to stop it being used for automotive use.
Both kero and diesel are heating oils. Kero is common in the UK.

Diesel for heating is generally called gas oil and it is red. It is not the same as road diesel and can be recognised even if the dye is removed.

Kero in bulk is not coloured but when sold as paraffin it often is. Remember Esso Blue and Pink Paraffin?

It is illegal in the UK to add kero to road diesel.
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That's right - in the UK central heating oil IS Kerosene - so before you try to shoot me down in flames Eupa PLEASE try to get your facts right - I usually do!!!

Actually Kerosene IS now coloured - with a yellow dye the Europeans made us put into it - before that it LOOKED exactly the same as normal diesel. The yellow dye isn't very noticeable but it is there - also an invisible marker is used called courmarin that can be detected in a lab.

When they used to do a simple visual test you were fine but they introduced better testing because of the doctored Irish diesel.....
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so before you try to shoot me down in flames Eupa


Codders would I realy ?? - You do have a suspicious mind....
any way the problem is definitions.....

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Johnthan, please tell me were I can get a diesel fuel flow meter for $270.Pete

Pete- just seen this - will send you PM on Monday- doe you need the twin motor one or the single motor one.
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