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Old 19 June 2005, 08:13   #31
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Eupa,

Won't I can't understand is how can you afford to delivery newspapers to Calais with a rib and two huge outboards and presumably two crew. surely it would be cheaper to chuck the papers in the back of a transit & stick on the Euro Tunnel ? papers don't get wet, trains not effected by weather (err, well most of the time) and you don't have to load and unload down a harbour wall. Is there really that much money to be made with the first editions in Paris ?

What do you you bring back on the return run ?

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PETE, They use to fly out the papers to France/Germany /Paris ect. the price is nearly 2 euros/ kg. The cost of using the tunnel ONE way for freight vehicles is some 300 euros for a small van of 1000 kgs capacity. Forget about anything bigger as you have to use a tacho and speed limited to 90/110 kph. Ferries are a bit cheaper - but Calais for the last 6 months has been a nightmare. ( in some cases a 5 hour wait to dock at Calais). I can clew the duty back on Uk petrol as the vessel is serving a commercial purpose ( own goods). I have operated a hand delivery for UK Sunday papers in Belgium/ Holland/ Luxemborg since 1983. I currently sell over 4000 papers every weekend at some 4 to 5 euros a copy. / I also distribute newspapers on a daily basis to Paris and Holland for some Uk based editors.

I do need a ships-mate ( just to tie up ) -and keep me awake. The boat- use is entirely weekend only as the selling prices are much higher. Three years
ago the majority of Uk editors switched to fax printing in Belgium/ France/Germany. But to make this viable ( print runs are very small) they increased the prices to the punters BUT at the same time significantly reduced the content. A lot of Uk people buying UK papers abroad are paying
3 quid for half a paper ( i,e excludes all mags/ supplements? sections) My company will only buy Uk editions with all the bits- and we sell them for the same price as sold locally. Due to this "honest" policy - my company in Belgium accounts for neary 50% of all Uk sunday editions.

The earlier we arrive at our destinations - the more we sell. On the return we take Italian and French papers to London. As we do not have any unsolds we have excellent prices from the Uk publishers --- and they love it.

But the real bonus is that we are not sitting around waiting for ferries/ tunnel
places ect. ( hence the name of the boat "INDEPENDENT" It does not work 100% of the time but on average about 75%- due to weather as anything over a 6 is uncomfortable. Loading is via drop down containers/ unloading is via the pontoon at Calais.( on the north side where citroen load all their cars.

I will not go into the detailed ecomics- but it does make a lot of money plus ITS FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!-- but the problem is now am getting on in years and need new challenges.. hence my "atlantic' scenario

And another thing - WE WOULD NEVER USE A TRANSIT VAN- a vw t5/ t4 the best vans ever made... For rapid small movements ( 600 kgs) we use Vw passats. I just sold a 2002 passat with 550.000 kms on the clock - original engine/gb. ( 130 hp TDI)- each passat does about 1000kms every day


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Old 19 June 2005, 17:22   #32
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Jonathon,

Hmm thanks for the detailed reply, so what you are saying is you need an experienced rib skipper as an assistant

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Anyone want some duty free fags ?
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Old 20 June 2005, 01:36   #33
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Jonathon,

Hmm thanks for the detailed reply, so what you are saying is you need an experienced rib skipper as an assistant

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Anyone want some duty free fags ?
Let you know ... maybe yes. As regards the fags bit - a regular small van transporter was done the other day for smuggling fags to the uK from Belgium.
He was using the tunnel every day and hiding the fags with other cargo.
He was shopped by somebody who he owed money to - and they found 72 outers of fags. Unfortunately for him - they put his number plate on eurotunnels
computer and it told them he had done the trip over 300 ti
mes in the last two years. He got 1 year firm + a ( wait for it...) 300.000 euro fine ( about 150.000 quid)

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Old 20 June 2005, 05:11   #34
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Do not have time to read thread but here are consumption numbers:

Brighton to Lymington 91nm 106 litres

since then - running around Solent

82nm 100 litres
OK, back at 'work'.

Soooo.....a 160 litre tank with 20 litres which the boatbuilder tells me I cannot rely upon.

140 litres usable.

Brighton to Lymingtion was rough!!

Thus 0.85nm per litre seems the right number

140 litres

120 n miles

20% safety margin (I carry an emergency separate 5 gallon tank ~ 22 litres)


Say 100nm practical range.

So, going west from Lymington, where is my first docksaide petrol - apart from presumably Poole which is a detour?

Thanks

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Old 20 June 2005, 05:41   #35
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Old 20 June 2005, 06:02   #36
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Bruce, according to Reed's Almanac 2005, there is no petrol between Poole and Torquay unless you use cans. Anyone with local knowledge know different?
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Old 20 June 2005, 06:39   #37
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well that took a little longer than I rekoned for someone to bite


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Old 20 June 2005, 07:47   #38
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There is a petrol station about five minutes walk from the marina at Weymouth, but it could hardly be described as "dock side". It's probably your best bet though.

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I seem to remember that the marina will lend/hire you a trolley (and possibly cans as well). Best give them a call - 01305 767576
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