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Old 24 April 2008, 08:06   #1
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Fuel and spares

Just as a quick query after being told by engine fitters that these are known issues, has anybody had these problems?

Fuel - outboards not running when fuel is more than a few weeks old if they are fuel injected? I can understand months or years old fuel but a few weeks?
Suzuki spares availability- ie none or very poor? Parts taking months to trun up?

I had never heard of either issue before but am assured they are true, had a carb engine before and never had a Suzuki so neither affected me before and I am curious if it is nothing more than scare stories or b*l*hit.
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Old 24 April 2008, 09:35   #2
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Bruce,
Suzuki spares are readily available (and much cheaper!!!) from Brownspoint Marine in USA. Orders accepted on internet and delivery usually speedy
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Old 24 April 2008, 11:53   #3
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Recently used a suzuki 140 with fuel that has been in its tank since at least last October 2007. With No probs.

I ve not found availability on parts a problem. Never in Stock!! Next day normally.
Its the price they want.
Compared to the likes of Brownspoint inc delivery.

Always check to see if theres any warranty left too. Worth going into the dealer and get them to check.

One thing I found out about the DF140 and others in the DF range, is that they brake the trim sender levers! Some how. You require the complete sender, cannot buy just the arm. 108.00.

Maybe someone can tell me why they brake and if there is a solution.
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I run a Dt65 suzuki and have bought bits from Brownspoint USA, i think their system is excellent, but it can be, and feel like a false economy. Shipping is 60 dollars plus regardless of order size, and then mr taxman likes to add on his fair share. I haven't found out how much it would have cost me to buy all the bits i did in the UK, but i'm not sure how cheap it would work out to be 'all in'.

That said, if you could do a joint order and share shipping? That might then work out quite well.

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I am aware of Brownspoint and have ordered bits from them before.
The stories I have been told (and more and more I suspect these are stories) is that UK supplies of Suzuki parts are non existent and they won't run on anything bar absolutely fresh fuel.
I have my reasons why I suspect I am being fed a line of b***t relating to this particular dealer but rather than dismiss them out of hand I thought if I would ask and see if there is any truth in either of the stories, something I suspect there isn't.
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I've struggled in the past few years to find Suzuki spares locally.
the outboard centre in Fareham used to keep quite a bit in stock at a reasonable(ish) price, but they moved to Southampton a couple of years ago.

My only local dealer now is Home marine in Emsworth who are friendly and helpful, but working out of little more than a shed in the marina limits the amount of parts they keep in, so everything needs to be ordered.

When I was working further away from home I could stop off at Pacer marine on the way South, they were very good, but I felt a little more expensive.

I've not used Brownspoint but will probably try them one day.

As for Suzukis being less tolerant of stale fuel, I've not noticed it.
My current DT200EFI regularly drinks 1 or 2 month old fuel, admittedly mixed with some fresh, and my old DT55 and 40 often used the remains of last summers fuel when used for the first time in April or May.

I can't specificaly comment on the 4 Strokes because I've not had one.

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The engines mentioned were all fs injection engines and Suzukis in particular. Anything over 4-6 weeks old fuel made any injection engine run very poorly wwas the actual observation made.
I can't see it myself as there would be nothing but compliants from just about everyone on here about poor running outboards, whose fuel is always brand new?
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Sorry, forgot to comment on the fuel question. My DF140 always ran perfectly, often on fuel that was 3+ months old. The only point I would make is that I tended to top up with 98 octane instesd of 95 octane fuel.
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I get Suzuki parts from these people in the UK.

Always seem to be reasonably quick.

Don't know how the price compares with "All-in" (Tax, duty, etc etc) from USA.

http://www.imsupplies.co.uk/home.php

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Chris is the person there that I have dealt with.

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My local supplier has never had any difficulty in getting hold of spares. So I don't see any problem with that. I also never had any issues with old fuel etc. The only thing I do know is that they are very sensitive to having good spark plugs. I had a rough running issue which was resolved by replacing the plugs. I think you've been fed a little bit of fiction.
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