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Old 07 December 2006, 12:44   #21
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i bet everybody sat at the other engine seminars did as well, but its independent and they all supply the info to each other
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Old 07 December 2006, 15:33   #22
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320 hrs suzuki df 140 2005 no problems at all
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Old 07 December 2006, 17:58   #23
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diagnostic software

when I was at the southampton boat show the suzuki chap told me an owner could get the package especially if they were commercial. Given your ability to pop out and drive it to a dealer I'm sure they would let you have some (price was mentioned as I recall and it was a few hundred) they seem V keen to get as many units out and it may be worth pointing out the advantages of having one of their units down there.

I have found the ability to discuss the few queries I have had reassuring

For the record Yam also excellent on the phone.
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Old 08 December 2006, 13:06   #24
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For the record Yam also excellent on the phone.
That's not the general consensus here in the States. Then again, that is second-hand, as I've never had reason to call them.

Honda, on the other hand, was very responsive (if not very helpful) when I called to inquire about drilling holes in the cav plate.


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Old 11 December 2006, 09:01   #25
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most of the New ones, like the Yamaha 115f, even the Etecs, you "talk" to the "brain" with its tach and warning lights. it comunicates any problems to the tec.

soft ware to change the Fuel curve, not sure this is what you guys need for what your lookin to do. change the fuel curve, milage most likely goes down, HP
would prob' go up.
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most of the New ones, like the Yamaha 115f, even the Etecs, you "talk" to the "brain" with its tach and warning lights. it comunicates any problems to the tec.
Yes, they have a computer interface which translates faults to error codes. The codes are readable from a properly interfaced PC (or other device) so you can see what kind of error was detected. There are some other displays that are available through that as well, for instance, ignition timing, and, as Codders alluded to, parameters for setting up fuel system pressures, things like that.

Nothing you'd need for routine maintenance, though; more of a setup/troubleshooting thing, as far as I'm aware.



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soft ware to change the Fuel curve, not sure this is what you guys need for what your lookin to do. change the fuel curve, milage most likely goes down, HP would prob' go up.
Maybe. In any event, your warranty would go out the window, so it's probably not something to go mucking around with unless you a) really know what you're doing, and b) can handle anything that goes wrong without manufacturer's assistance.

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Old 23 December 2006, 18:22   #27
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Just to add to this, we get a lot of cruise ships in here at this time of year and many of the smallers ones use Zodiacs for ferrying passengers ashore. I've therefore taken a close interest over the last few weeks in what power they choose as in that business you don't want reliability problems with a boatload of litigation hungry American tourists. It confirmed my previous thought that without exception they are ALL (several different companies and boats) using Yamaha 4 strokes, seem to be 40s or 60s. Got to be a good recommendation I reckon, if they all came to the same conclusion
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Old 23 December 2006, 18:25   #28
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Nothing wrong with Four Strokes. The car world managed to work that one out years ago. Unless you want an East german Trabant

For all thats said if two strokes were that good you'd at least see some two stroke cars.

I can't remember the last time I saw one. Oh yes a Polish bloke at my Fathers work in the late 60's had a smelly, crap skoda.
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thinkin half the Weight and twice the Power had and still has a big bunch to do with it.
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thinkin half the Weight and twice the Power had and still has a big bunch to do with it.
If you can tell me where to get a 2 stroke that is less than 100kg and produces 230hp I'll be off to buy one immediately
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