Experts Needed, Whats the Value of this Engine?

andreworiordan · 22 December 2009, 19:31

Hi all, Im thinking of making an offer on an engine I have seen on a boat that is rotting away, As far as I can tell the engine as approx 2000 (year) and is PTT and electric start, From what I have heard the engine was never flushed out and has not been started in about 3 years but the prop does turn, inside the engine is perfect, the outside is a bit rough and may need a new prop, what im looking for is a value on the engine, what would be a fair offer?

Thanks all!!

chewy · 22 December 2009, 19:35

Hp?

andreworiordan · 22 December 2009, 19:43

sorry, forgot to say, Its a 40hp 4stroke

Jono Garton · 22 December 2009, 19:48

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Originally Posted by andreworiordan

Its a 40hp 4stroke

Are you sure?

Jono

andreworiordan · 22 December 2009, 19:51

positive, again im not sure on the year, i might be out

spartacus · 22 December 2009, 20:13

Looks like it's on the back of a Zodiac Pro 7-Man. It's also been on a mooring, which would account for the severe corrosion on the leg. Crying shame, on what would have been an expensive engine from new.

Incidentally - the prop turning means nothing (as it's neutral).

A new 40hp E-Tec will set you back circa £4k. However the one pictured isn't in the best of condition. Sure the lower leg can be resprayed (probably worth replacing the sacrificial anodes too). What's more of a worry is that it's never been flushed. The internal pipework could be badly effected. You really need to start her and check the tell-tale. First off, the impeller will need changed, and check the thermostat too for salt build up.

Price wise, allowing for a thorough service, new propeller, repaint the lower leg and skeg, probably no more than £1,800 tops. The fact it's never been flushed says a lot about the previous owner.

You could pick up a new Tohatsu 40hp TLDi for £3,800.

Jono Garton · 22 December 2009, 20:16

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Originally Posted by andreworiordan

positive, again im not sure on the year, i might be out

Must be a grey import to be an evinrude 4 stroke as all OMC/BRP/Bombardier 4 stroke enginges were rebranded suzukis as Johnsons.

Theres a good chance that gear box wont come off without serious heat and powerhead off.

Best left alone in my opinion.

If all was running and gear box would come off, I would think it would be worth £1000 - £1500 to sell

Jono

shoestring · 22 December 2009, 20:19

Absolutely No idea on the value but i've just looked at your build thread; boat looks fantastic a real transformation

andreworiordan · 22 December 2009, 20:27

thanks, just need to put an engine on her and she should be done, going down tomorrow to rewire the boat!!

Ian Sharlot · 22 December 2009, 20:31

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Originally Posted by Jono Garton

Best left alone in my opinion.

I'll second that, be carfull. if the powerhead is corroded internaly like the rest of the engine, you could be buying a load of trouble

Nos4r2 · 22 December 2009, 21:44

I'd be offering 50 quid for it given the level of visible corrosion. At least it'll be worth that for scrap if it's as had it as it potentially could be.

Hightower · 22 December 2009, 23:05

Interestly that prop seems to have the end of one blade missing (it could be the angle of the photo). If it has and it's been run like that, I would be checking the gearbox and propshaft bearings out.

outboardtech · 23 December 2009, 08:10

if the lower unit looks like that , then what does the internal cooling passages look like in the engine's block ?? SERIOUS CORROSION PROB'S . BE CAREFUL HERE . I WOULD OFFER NO MORE THAN £ 300.00 . You could have it for half a season and then runinto PROB'S

spartacus · 23 December 2009, 08:13

Just noticed. This is an older Pro 420 (4.2m). The transom is different and would have required a standard-shaft engine. The new Pro range all use long-shaft engines. The way the engine has been attached looks decidedly Heath-Robinson (most of the strain on the lower two bolts), which would account for the leg sitting in water even in the tilt up position. Your Tornado would easily take a 50hp, Couple of options here for you (both Yamaha).
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/50hp-yamaha-ou...item4a9d3b5769

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