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Old 25 September 2009, 14:39   #11
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I am concerned at your experiences, as I have been considering these engines for the next bigger RIB.
What I cannot tally, is if they are of such poor quality, why do the majority of the commercial RIBs that Humber supply have them as standard? These boats do the bighours and from a commercial propsective, that would be suicide.
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Old 25 September 2009, 15:03   #12
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I am concerned at your experiences, as I have been considering these engines for the next bigger RIB.
What I cannot tally, is if they are of such poor quality, why do the majority of the commercial RIBs that Humber supply have them as standard? These boats do the bighours and from a commercial propsective, that would be suicide.
You have hit the nail one the head. E-tecs are superb engines, let's be honest you will only hear about the ones that do suffer problems on these forums and the fact that Quinqari fit them to most of their boats should give you an idea of their true reliability.
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Old 25 September 2009, 15:14   #13
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let's be honest you will only hear about the ones that do suffer problems on these forums
Nonsense Chris, mine are fantastic!

... and then there's Mollers, his is great too, and while he only has the one, it's a lot bigger...
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Old 25 September 2009, 15:46   #14
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You have hit the nail one the head. E-tecs are superb engines, let's be honest you will only hear about the ones that do suffer problems on these forums and the fact that Quinqari fit them to most of their boats should give you an idea of their true reliability.

Which may be true .. but like all things mechanical .. there are sometimes bad examples no matter how good the manufacturer claims to be.

What annoys me is that some dealers stand by their product and refuse point blank to refer to the manufacturer and say "we have a problem here"

Sometimes its down to the warranty arrangements between the dealer and the manufacturer, but they are most definately not the CUSTOMERS problem

To the OP .. get the hell on to Evinrude, and the dealer .. and tell them you've had enough .. and will continue posting HERE and everywhere else .. untill you get some form of guarantee for the work already carried out, and that this engine you bought in good faith does what it was supposed to.

Did you buy it outright or finance it ?

I echo your worries about going to sea with less than 100% confidence

Dont know your consumer rights in Ireland, but get busy and find out fast, and make someone accountable for the money you spent in good faith on the product you deserve to have

*edit* Sorry Ribnet .. I've been needing a rant all day !!
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Old 25 September 2009, 16:27   #15
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Nonsense Chris, mine are fantastic!

... and then there's Mollers, his is great too, and while he only has the one, it's a lot bigger...
I've held off from posting on this thread as I, unlike some, don't feel the need to wave the flag for the manfacturer of every componant on my boat.

I did my homework at reasonable length before choosing the Etec, I'm very pleased with it and right now, I'd buy another without hesitation.
The dealer I bought it through was and is excellent and I'm sure, should a problem occur within the 5yr warranty period, he'd deal with it.

In my book, if unsure, look over the pond. 1000's of Etecs have been sold in North America, if they were inherantly flawed, it would be plastered all over the forums. It's not, they love them.

Pick any brand and with a quick search, you'll bring up horror stories, 250 Suzi's blowing-up in Norway, Opti's eating compressors, Yams corroding and on and on...
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the quinqaris i drive use the twin 200 etec set up. general consensus seems to be that up to 1000 hours they're pretty bulletproof, over that then parts need to start being replaced.
injectors seem to be the priciest bits, especially on the newer engines and go at about 1500 hours i think. we've got 2 etecs with just over 3000 hours on them! mind you, thats a different usage pattern to 100 hours spread over a season. my thoughts are they're always a bit agricultural sounding until warmed up, will start in the coldest of weather, put out an amazing lot of grunt compared to equivalent power 4 stroke and are particularly clunky through the gearbox. can't say much positive about the fuel consumtion though, they eat fuel compared to 4 stroke at anything above half throttle.

i'm sure there will always be a dud in the batch though and it sounds like the OP has got a particularly duff one. back to the manfr i suggest.
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Can't help you on the Problems I'm afraid, but apart from the early problems with my DI which is essentually a for runner of the Etec, I've been very happy with it.

Dealers however......The one that Sold, Fitted and PDI'ed the motor was utter crap (BRP Agent). The customer wasn't allways right and I found them very difficult to work with, so much so that I ended up moving to my local Dealer.

By talking to BRP direct I found them to be as helpful as one could discussing problems over the phone. In the end BRP sent a man out to get the oil pump replaced as the incompitent dealer didn't seem to have a clue.

this was 2 years ago.

Hope you get satisfaction in the end.
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My nearest Etec agents are expensive Merc/Yam/Honda 'jacks of all trades'.
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My nearest Etec agents are expensive Merc/Yam/Honda 'jacks of all trades'.
Race Marine at Taunton are the best I have found and closer to Cornwall than most
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Old 27 September 2009, 15:35   #20
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What annoys me is that some dealers stand by their product and refuse point blank to refer to the manufacturer and say "we have a problem here"
I agree - a number of years back, a local Ermintrood dealer was trying to flog me a FICHT motor, saying how marvellous they were, knowing he'd had loads of them back in with blown powerheads
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