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Old 20 May 2014, 15:57   #11
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Im guessing thats why the RNLI use yams and mercs/suzukis due to reliability etc. you wont see many etecs being used in 3rd world countries either. Its always yams and mercs. Many of these later four strokes i believe are lighter than some etecs also.
Havin said that when they do go they go very well as im a fan of two strokes!
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Old 20 May 2014, 16:13   #12
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you wont see many etecs being used in 3rd world countries
Or Porsches, Ferraris and Lamborghinis. Mahindras are the way to go!!
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I am biased having bought a new 90 e-tec at the end of last year for a 5.4 Searider and I love it!
I looked at quite a few options at the time the others were; DF90 Suzuki, Tohatsu 90Tldi, Selva 80 Tigershark and Optimax 90.

Engine weight is an issue with the Searider so this had a huge bearing on my engine choice. Especially considering the diving kit that we sometimes carry.

The Suzuki was good on weight but heavy on price nearly 2k more than what I ended up paying. Same with the Tohatsu good weight but a more expensive option. The cheapest by far was the Selva Tigershark, I don't have a problem with Selva's as I was running a Selva at the time (and still have 2 others in my workshop) but decided the 80hp and smaller displacement wasn't going to be enough.

It came down to the e-tec and the Opti and the Merc was winning on price (Bill Higham "boat show" 7 day offer) until I stood next to one on a display stand.... they are huge.
I was concerned that the size and weight of the Merc (described as "a lardy lump" which is a bit unfair) so went round to Liverpool Power Boats and talked to Ian to see if he could do anything on the Evinrude price. In fact I phoned every Evinrude distributor in the country over a 3 week period and the price difference only varied slightly whereas the quality of reply was another matter...
In the end Ian came up with a deal I was happy with the e-tec was fitted.

It is compact, quiet, extremely good on fuel, starts instantly, the torque/holeshot is fantastic and so responsive, the trim range and lock to lock range is better than I'm used to which makes it very agile.
The five year warranty is peace of mind as is the 300hr/3year service interval so hopefully running cost should be low.

I've got to admit though the Optimax 90 does look a nice (BIG) engine and I would love to try one on an SR for a day. And if I had a RIB which was rated for a heavy transom weight I might still be wondering if these e-tecs were any good.
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Old 20 May 2014, 16:36   #14
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I am biased having bought a new 90 e-tec at the end of last year for a 5.4 Searider and I love it!
I looked at quite a few options at the time the others were; DF90 Suzuki, Tohatsu 90Tldi, Selva 80 Tigershark and Optimax 90.

Engine weight is an issue with the Searider so this had a huge bearing on my engine choice. Especially considering the diving kit that we sometimes carry.

The Suzuki was good on weight but heavy on price nearly 2k more than what I ended up paying. Same with the Tohatsu good weight but a more expensive option. The cheapest by far was the Selva Tigershark, I don't have a problem with Selva's as I was running a Selva at the time (and still have 2 others in my workshop) but decided the 80hp and smaller displacement wasn't going to be enough.

It came down to the e-tec and the Opti and the Merc was winning on price (Bill Higham "boat show" 7 day offer) until I stood next to one on a display stand.... they are huge.
I was concerned that the size and weight of the Merc (described as "a lardy lump" which is a bit unfair) so went round to Liverpool Power Boats and talked to Ian to see if he could do anything on the Evinrude price. In fact I phoned every Evinrude distributor in the country over a 3 week period and the price difference only varied slightly whereas the quality of reply was another matter...
In the end Ian came up with a deal I was happy with the e-tec was fitted.

It is compact, quiet, extremely good on fuel, starts instantly, the torque/holeshot is fantastic and so responsive, the trim range and lock to lock range is better than I'm used to which makes it very agile.
The five year warranty is peace of mind as is the 300hr/3year service interval so hopefully running cost should be low.

I've got to admit though the Optimax 90 does look a nice (BIG) engine and I would love to try one on an SR for a day. And if I had a RIB which was rated for a heavy transom weight I might still be wondering if these e-tecs were any good.
Thanks fella thats given me some peace of mind after Ive just bought one for my 5.4 Tornado ... thats the best review Ive 'never' had cos I did a bit of looking for some stuff on it
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Thanks fella thats given me some peace of mind after Ive just bought one for my 5.4 Tornado ... thats the best review Ive 'never' had cos I did a bit of looking for some stuff on it
Make sure that the battery connections are always 100% and never run one with the battery disconnected. Never "switch" the battery isolator when one is running. The EMM is horribly sensitive and horribly expensive. All the rest is excellent! I had two of them and they were great.
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Make sure that the battery connections are always 100% and never run one with the battery disconnected. Never "switch" the battery isolator when one is running. The EMM is horribly sensitive and horribly expensive. All the rest is excellent! I had two of them and they were great.
Good point, some dealers do tell you about this and build extra into the "fitting cost" for a new battery, battery leads, terminals etc. They will not allow wing nuts on battery cable terminals either, in case they work loose?
I had just fitted all new high spec gear on mine so they were happy to fit to my existing stuff.
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They will not allow wing nuts on battery cable terminals either, in case they work loose?
Yeah, those. Or dodgy crimped connections. Did I mention that a secondhand EMM cost 800 in 2010. Each.
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Old 21 May 2014, 03:09   #19
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The only issues I had with the etecs were caused by water in the fuel, not sure how other brands would have coped with that differently. Other than that they were fantastic, quiet at tickover speeds, huge holeshot grunt and very good economy. They were considerably more compact and lighter than other brands as well.

Bigmuzz, make sure you have really good water separators fitted and just be careful who you use to fit and maintain it!
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I fell foul of the dodgy battery connector problem on my Etec 90.
Blew the EMM and had to be towed in by the lifeboat.
My fault, I did the connections but was blissfully unaware!

Apart from that it's been faultless since 2006.

Just bought a 30hp one to go on an Orkney Strikeliner.
Went for the manual start model, so no battery connections to worry about!
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