Engine Choice for Ribcraft 750 Sport

Nauti Buoy · 05 July 2006, 10:16

I am looking at orderring a Ribcraft 750 Sport, I am undecided on the engine, I have always had Suzuki mainly DF140 but am undecided what to put on the back of the Ribcraft.

I have whittled it down to the following:-

Evinrude Etec 250, Suzuki DF250 V6 which are comparible prices or the Yamaha F225 which is about £2k more than the other two. I am slightly more swayed to the cheaper options obviously but would be very interested if anyone has any of these engines and has good or bad points to say about them, or what I could expect from them in terms of speed / economy at cruising speed of 35-40 knots.

pmorgan · 05 July 2006, 10:24

I have a Yamaha F225, excellent engine. I had a similar dilemma when specifying our RIB, the thing that swayed me was chatting to the guys at Solent RIB Charters who have Six Ribcrafts with F225 on the back that they obviously have to rely on for their business. They said that they had little problems over many hundreds of hours so that swayed it for me.

Having said that I am sure that there will be people singing praises for the other engines and 2K is a lot of cash !

codprawn · 05 July 2006, 10:31

The engines are ALL good - go for the best deal you can find on the day!!!

Rogue Wave · 05 July 2006, 10:51

Yamaha engines are by far the best known and in my opinion look the best made!

Thay also carry a high resale price as they really hold their looks as they age. If money wasn't an option and I was looking for a four stroke I'd go yammie everytime and the 225 is a particularly reliable lump!

Daniel · 05 July 2006, 12:19

make some space for a PM Stu!

Nice new website... no content though!

I also agree that Yammies are A1 engines and hold value very very well. They are - usually - more expensive per HP new though. Merc's, Suzzys and stuff always seam to have a deal to be got but never on a Yam. This might, of course, be for a reason - they sell themselves?

Rogue Wave · 05 July 2006, 12:29

thanks Daniel Pm space done

web site content on the way today I hope

slimtim · 05 July 2006, 13:47

blimey richard, you must have had about 5 or 6 boats in the time its taken to build mine!

I like the etecs...but that mainly based on looks

matt h · 05 July 2006, 14:59

was on e bay and there is a chap selling a brand new honda 225 in the crate for 8500 or thereabouts, looks good, finishes in a couple of days

codprawn · 05 July 2006, 15:38

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Originally Posted by matt h

was on e bay and there is a chap selling a brand new honda 225 in the crate for 8500 or thereabouts, looks good, finishes in a couple of days

Just make sure it's genuine first!!!

joakimhansson · 05 July 2006, 19:03

Why not take a look at Suzuki 175 hp, 4-cyl 2867cc with a weight of 211-215kg. Listprice 10399-10599£. Price is close to a yam 150.

My list (without pricecomparing)

4-stroke.

1. Yamaha 250
2. Suzuki 250
3. Merc verado 250

2-stroke.

1. Evinrude 250 e-tec
2. Merc 225 opti

Smart choise?!

1. Suzuki 175
2. Evinrude e-tec 200
3. Yamaha F-175-200

Decide size on the engine and then talk to ribcraft about a packageprice with 3-4 different engines.

No verado for me

DJL · 05 July 2006, 21:07

I've had the pleasure of driving a Ribcraft 7.8 w/ Suzuki DF250 for a few days. Significantly better acceleration/hole shot than Ribcraft 7.8 w/ Yam F225's i've driven - could be down to props though, Suzuki had a nice SS. Suzuki DF250 sounded very nice too, fuel consumption wise - 60lph WOT @ 45kts | 40lph @ 30kts

Nauti Buoy · 05 July 2006, 21:29

Having just seen the pics from fjordrafting, I don't think it is going to be a Suzuki DF250, reading up on various threads in the engine section the DF250 does appear to have had one or two problems. As where I have not found a negative comment ref the Yamaha 225hp as yet.

codprawn · 05 July 2006, 21:52

I would prob go for an ETEC 250 myself - lightest engine - most power!!!

The Jackeens · 05 July 2006, 22:58

Nauti,

Any reason that you don't mention the Yami f250 in your choice ???? Ive read somewhere that the fuel economy has been improved upon.

after all you can never have enough power

http://www.yamaha-motor.co.uk/produc...tcm%3A46-57380

Andy_Rs600 · 06 July 2006, 00:07

Personally, i'd have the E-Tec. You seem to have already eliminated the suzuki for the same reason i wouldn't buy it

, and although the yam is nice, nothing i've seen says it's worth the extra cash.

Nauti Buoy · 06 July 2006, 08:29

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Originally Posted by The Jackeens

Nauti,

Any reason that you don't mention the Yami f250 in your choice ???? Ive read somewhere that the fuel economy has been improved upon.

after all you can never have enough power

http://www.yamaha-motor.co.uk/produc...tcm%3A46-57380

No reason, other than the fact the price just keeps going up and up and up and have to draw the line somewhere, or at least try to draw a line at the cost. Already stepped over the first two lines I said I was not going to go over.

Ribster Rache · 06 July 2006, 19:26

We put the E- tec 250hp on the transon of our 7metre osprey, after lots of research and pondering and have not been dissappointed ,
Why , it looks great ,
its technology surpasses the others ,
its the lightest ( 231kg )
no servicing for 3 years
self winterising
great sounding engine (but very quiet)
awesome power , why have the more unresponsive 4 stroke
when you can have the 2 stroke snap , and the same
economy
and, with so many less moving parts there is less to go wrong!

Just to finish, we haven't met anyone who has an E-tec that hasn't had anything but praise for these engines, and all have said they would buy again.

Nauti Buoy · 12 July 2006, 12:08

Does anyone have any thoughts on this engine plant? as the Rib is already getting pricey, it is very marginal in price and might be a better idea to have the Yamaha 4.2l diesel engine installed with Hydradrive Duo Prop and making the Ribcraft into an 8m Sport Rib.

This is the blurb on the Yamaha Website:-

Like every YAMAHA HYDRA DRIVE, this 4.2 litre, 6-cylinder powerhouse has a reputation for exceptional economy and quiet reliability during extended periods of continuous running. The 245hp power output makes the ME 422 ideal for any boat where tough and demanding sea conditions are the order of the day. The ME 422 is available with the single-propeller HYDRA drive unit - see ME422 - SP or with this remarkable TRP version. The TRP drive option with twin counter-rotating propellers offers the ultimate in smooth, torque-free control and arrow-straight steering for both single and twin-engine installations.

Nauti Buoy · 12 July 2006, 15:37

This would be the 275hp version Yamaha ME422HO not the one I mention below.

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Originally Posted by Nauti Buoy

Does anyone have any thoughts on this engine plant? as the Rib is already getting pricey, it is very marginal in price and might be a better idea to have the Yamaha 4.2l diesel engine installed with Hydradrive Duo Prop and making the Ribcraft into an 8m Sport Rib.

This is the blurb on the Yamaha Website:-

Like every YAMAHA HYDRA DRIVE, this 4.2 litre, 6-cylinder powerhouse has a reputation for exceptional economy and quiet reliability during extended periods of continuous running. The 245hp power output makes the ME 422 ideal for any boat where tough and demanding sea conditions are the order of the day. The ME 422 is available with the single-propeller HYDRA drive unit - see ME422 - SP or with this remarkable TRP version. The TRP drive option with twin counter-rotating propellers offers the ultimate in smooth, torque-free control and arrow-straight steering for both single and twin-engine installations.

Roy Smith · 12 July 2006, 17:48

We had the choice of engines when we speced the boat and went for Yamaha we heard all the same storys mine,s this mine dose that etc.
but as some one as already said when it comes to the charter ribs i have not seen any round here with E.tecs. i am not waving the flag for Yamaha just that when you have to earn your living and sell them on later the Yams seam to be at the top of most peoples list.as for fuel consumption a lot of people seam to forget the 2storke when doing there figures.