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Old 20 May 2015, 15:09   #31
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[QUOTE=Bigtalljv;678951 Just my old Ford F250 and it's big old 7.3L V8 diesel. Redlines at 3K

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That's 'coz those boys were powered by cubes, loads of 'em.

Modern diesels are now titchy and twitchy and hence require lots of stuff like multivalves, turbos, superturbos, intercoolers etc. to produce respectable power, but more importantly economy and low emissions. Torque tends to fly out of the window however.
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I got a turbo, an intercooler, and multi-valves.....what I don't have is common rail injection. we should argue if that's the single biggest "improvement" to diesels it accounts for increased HP and better fuel economy. The new Ford Powerstroke ('11 onwards I think) has significant more of everything than my truck. A friend (a cowboy who has the same truck I do but with some mod's), his wife got a 2011 F250 and he was blown away by it.

I was just looking and Banks Power got a Dodge diesel pickup to go 220mph....
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Old 20 May 2015, 15:26   #33
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I got a turbo, an intercooler, and multi-valves.....what I don't have is common rail injection. ....
That would just be greedy on 7.3Ltrs.

IMO, BMW lead the way in medium size diesel development. The early '90s straight six 2.5Ltr TDI was the benchmark from which they've continued to develop.
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Torque tends to fly out of the window however.
Depends on which overturboed lump you buy:
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Depends on which overturboed lump you buy:
I was referring to small capacity (titchy) diesels , that fecker is 4.4Ltr!
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I was referring to small capacity (titchy) diesels , that fecker is 4.4Ltr!
Pfft! It's lifted from a Landcruiser - wee buns!
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Pfft! It's lifted from a Landcruiser - wee buns!
The weeest bun is the daftness fitted in the VW Amarok. VAG build some proper TDIs including a 5Ltr V10. So what do they fit in their big buff pick-up truck? A poncy 2ltr Golf engine! By means of an asthma inhaler, they did throw in a supercharger.
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The weeest bun is the daftness fitted in the VW Amarok. VAG build some proper TDIs including a 5Ltr V10. So what do they fit in their big buff pick-up truck? A poncy 2ltr Golf engine! By means of an asthma inhaler, they did throw in a supercharger.
Twin turbos and 180BHp combined with an 8 speed DSG gearbox makes it a very nice drive, tows 3.2 tons as well.....
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3.2 tons with only a 2 litre 180bhp....ermmm.....no thanks.

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That is 10hp more than a 3.0 hilux but I wouldn't want to tow 3.2tonnes with any pickup regardless of the stated capacity might be ok on the straight but you'd be in trouble if it got out of line at all unless it was well loaded too.
My pal has a 3.5tonnes vw crafter as a race van with the same engine & it runs overweight constantly & seems to be holding up to the punishment pretty well & pulls like a train apparently.although he did lease it with the intention of swapping it once it's lease is up as he wasn't sure what the life expectancy would be with such a small engine working so hard
Personally I'd have thought the pickup would have sold better with the 3.0l v 6 fitted
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