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12 June 2007, 18:34
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I thought that the price differences on Brunswick products between here and the US had been adjusted. I'd heard that they were losing so much business to non-genuine part sales that they'd had to act. So, it looks as if we're still being ripped off, How the hell can DFI oil be 4 times more expensive here?
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Oh, I forgot to mention. If you want "quicksilver" on the jug then it is another 10 bucks. Also, and this is the 3rd P. off : a 2.5 US gal. jug is $29.95.
All Mercury manuals( both DFI and Carb) approve use of two stroke oil to standard TC-W3. The top line of the credit card receipt is the price of the oil. Your should just be able to make out the $13.99
See attached
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12 June 2007, 19:10
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Ahh but you must use proper Mercury oil made by Mercury engineers extrated from Mercury oil wells otherwise your engine will blow up and they won't honour the guarantee!!!
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12 June 2007, 19:22
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OUTBOARD-TWO-S...QQcmdZViewItem
OK, so is this stuff suitable? If so, I'm gonna be in like Flynn. 
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12 June 2007, 19:56
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12 June 2007, 20:39
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I understand where Codders is coming from. However, I am looking at my very expensive Mercury Factory Service Manual and in the Specifications section it says' "Recommend oil..........TC-W3" and no mention of any brand.
Hope this helps.
Tony
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12 June 2007, 21:02
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not sure i would buy oil like that from ebay as you never know its origin and composition and it is not specifically listed on the tcw3 list i sent out as an approved brand/oil from what i can see
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not sure i would buy oil like that from ebay as you never know its origin and composition and it is not specifically listed on the tcw3 list i sent out as an approved brand/oil from what i can see
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Keep digging. If you google Exol Lubricants they look like the real deal.
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Just buy RockOil - they are great people to deal with and it's great oil - good prices as well........
http://www.rockoil.co.uk/Marine.pdf
TCW3 spec and semi synthetic. Looks EXACTLY the same as the Quicksilver oil!!!
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12 June 2007, 21:25
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Keep digging. If you google Exol Lubricants they look like the real deal.
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but i think i would rather buy from a dealer than a trader on ebay
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12 June 2007, 21:36
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This DFI oil you use for Opti's is this suitable for an Evinrude DI outboard geared to use XD50?
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Where's Cookee in all this? Take your 'Barrus' hat off and give us your opinion on this. What are you guys running and are we mugs buying genuine QS oil @£30 a pop?
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13 June 2007, 14:44
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interesting for the opti fans attached.
note that it says TC-W3 premium plus oil, apparently according to barrus this is a higher grade than regular TC-W3 oil as using regular oil would invalidate your warranty.
I have been in touch with the service mgr at ep barrus.
what do people think?
my view is i will continue to use Optimax/DFI oil in mine. 
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Marketing BS. 
Why is a DFI engine under more stress or require a special lubricant compared with an EFI.
D'ont make any sense. But you " pays your money and makes your choice".
T.
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Marketing BS.
Why is a DFI engine under more stress or require a special lubricant compared with an EFI.
D'ont make any sense. But you " pays your money and makes your choice".
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Nice to see someone agrees with me - felt like I was banging my head against a brick wall. Still let them carry on wasting money!!!
People don't seem to realise the hardest life an engine can ever has is racing and most racers wouldn't use the makers own oil......
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Nice to see someone agrees with me - felt like I was banging my head against a brick wall. Still let them carry on wasting money!!!
People don't seem to realise the hardest life an engine can ever has is racing and most racers wouldn't use the makers own oil......
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racers dont have warranties to worry about like us mortals
but we quite like the concept of you banging your head against a brick wall!
no seriously, if someone can identify an alternative to quicksilver dfi that is significantly cheaper and is ok to use by mercury then great, but until that day comes then dfi it is for me.
we have got the price down to around 23 quid so far so not tooo bad
codders dont get all worried about this, it is our money. we would prefer to pay 4-5 quid a litre than the current rate of around 8 quid for sure.
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This DFi oil is a yellow-gold colour.
Last night, I checked the little tank under the hood of my brand new Opti to find it was full of blue-green colour oil, suggesting the manufacturers have test run it on something other than DFi oil. What's going on there?  Quicksilver TCW3 is a blue-green colour.......
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This DFi oil is a yellow-gold colour.
Last night, I checked the little tank under the hood of my brand new Opti to find it was full of blue-green colour oil, suggesting the manufacturers have test run it on something other than DFi oil. What's going on there? Quicksilver TCW3 is a blue-green colour....... |
As is Rock Oil.............................
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As is Rock Oil.............................
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 Here we go again
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