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Old 11 August 2013, 08:44   #1
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Deceased Mariner 60

I have a 1991 Mariner 60, 2 stroke, 3 cyl with PTT. The small end bearing on the top cylinder is making a horrible noise - think 'saucepans in a tumble-dryer' - and will be expensive to repair.

Looking at eBay shows lots of listings for lower-units, middle units, cowls, carbs, etc., at what seem to me to be quite high prices. Do these actually sell at this price, or is this a height-of-season bubble? It would seem it is worth more in parts that as a 'spares or repair' item.
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You'll see the same listings constantly like that. Most are dealers-in fact most seem to be Bill Highwayman.
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Most of the parts take a long time to sell IF they sell at all with their ridiculous prices.

In truth your engine probably is worth more in parts but itl take quite some time to get rid of all parts, not to mention the hassle and cost of selling on eBay.

Easiest option is punting it as a non runner, plenty of people out there buy and break engines.

That sketchy fella Outboards12 being one of the biggest.
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The 'spares or repairs' prices are scarily low.
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Might be worth buying a manual and having a go at fixing it yourself for the experience if it looks like it'll come apart without too many siezed bolts.
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The pukka Mariner manual is on the side of the dealer's profit: "Using all new piston rings", "Do not re-use...", etc., but it is probably worth a try.

Doing a big chunk of the work might keep the costs of any work down.
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Hugh,

If you sdo a self repair you may find the replacement gaskets cost as much as if not more than the rings!


If you go Aftermarket (for pistons etc) do a search for Mallory and Sierra - from memory I got all three pistons & rings for something like 120. The "Top end full gasket set" was something like 70! Needless to say "Sierra" needs a few more words in the search box!


My theory was I could spend the money on a rebuild & end up with an engine of known history or buy a similarly priced used engine & maybe find an expensive problem at sea.


1991 - is yours a clamshell?
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Is the Mariner the same engine as the Yamaha? I know some of the models are just badge jobs, if it is, I have a Yamaha powerhead and midsection that might be suitable for a rebuild, the cylinders and crank are all complete.
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Alan,

Mine is after the clamshell but before the bigfoot.


Roterboter,

If it helps, it currently looks like this: Picture

(Though I'm hoping a new bearing will fix it)

(My flywheel pulling tool is 40 miles away and I can't break the seal between the block and the crankshaft cover )

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Alan,

Mine is after the clamshell but before the bigfoot.
Good motors- I had the 50hp version on my SR4. If it's fixable, I'd fix and keep it if you've got anything it can go on.
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