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Old 01 May 2002, 01:59   #1
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Cost of a Service

Hello

Part of my plan in bringing 'Quicksilver' down for a couple of months was to have the engine serviced at Boat & Jetski World in Willenhall, West Midlands, which is where I brought it. Well I rang them yesterday and asked the price of a service.

Now bear in mind it is a 15hp Mariner, 2 stroke, 2 cylinder 260cc, which has done about 40 hours since new in 2000. Basically it is a very simple 'engine on a stick', easy access, electronic ignition, no oil change.

Their quote: 90.00 + parts!!! "What!" I gently exclaimed to the lady at the shop. "I think you must have this wrong, I'm not asking for a refit of the QE2. My turbo diesel Ford Mondeo has a intermediate service at 80.00, and that is a darned sight more complicated, AND that includes filters and oil."

"Well there shouldn't be many parts needed", quoth she.

Strange be it to tell, they did not get my business. Caley Marina at Inverness quoted me 22.00 per hour. I can't by any stretch of my very fertile and lurid (not to mention SICK) imagination, see how it could be more than 2 hours work to service said engine.

So folks, ye mariners of vast experience, are they trying to rip me off, or is 90.00 to grease my nipples the going rate for mugging a poor miniature boat owner?

Miniature refers to the boat of course, not the owner.

Keith (saving up for a SONAR [note, NOT a fish finder because that sounds too much like a toy]) Hart
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Old 01 May 2002, 03:37   #2
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Keith,

Outboard servicing is expensive as you have found out, on yours i would think they would-

Change the impeller (1 hour max - my yam takes about 30 mins)
Change the gearbox oil - easy (15 Mins max)
Change Spark Plugs - easy (10mins max)
Grease all grease nipples - easy (15 mins max)

I service my own with exeption to the impeller.
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Old 01 May 2002, 05:30   #3
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According to the manual this is the service:

1. Lubricate all lubrication points (grease gun)
2. Inspect and clean spark plugs (2)
3. Check fuel line filter for contaminants
4. Check carburetor adjustment if required (seems to be running well)
5. Check corrosion control anodes

And that is it. I think I can manage that myself.

Oh and I'll remove the prop and grease the bearing.

Anything else?

Keith (grease monkey) Hart
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Old 01 May 2002, 05:47   #4
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Keith.........

forget all sensible economic rules. We're talking about boats here so everything costs at least double what it should. Sad but true!

Service on a 150 Opti is about 200 odd which in comparison seems not bad value. (as you need the plug in diagnostic terminal etc etc). For your engine as you say DIY is the best option. Enjoy!

Apropos to my first comment the best example of "boating markup" that I saw was buckets. You know the black builders things you can get from Wickes for 99p? 3.50 in my local chandlery!!! Nuff said.

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Old 01 May 2002, 17:24   #5
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Keith

If you are doing your own annual service you MUST change the engine oil and gear oil - both very easy onthe Mariners (and most others actually) - and explained in the owners manual.

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Old 01 May 2002, 17:33   #6
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Keith,

Forget changing the engine oil - Graeme runs in 4-stroke mode unlike us poor 2-stroke men .

I would have thought that to a man who has a Royal Enfield (the Creme de la creme after Nortons ) carrying out a service to your o/b could be done in your sleep
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Old 01 May 2002, 17:36   #7
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Peter

Forgot you were one of the 'Smokey Joes' - By the way when you 2 stroke boys evolve do you turn into diesel RIB owners, so that you still kick out all that smoke and fumes?

(By the way I must agree - Nortons are the Kings of the Road)
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Old 01 May 2002, 17:52   #8
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No, but when my numbers come up I will evolve into a Nelson 40 with twin 450HP inboards and use my RIB as a tender (Well, you've got to start somewhere)
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Old 01 May 2002, 17:59   #9
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Peter

I think I must be quite unique - or have something seriously wrong with me - as the LAST thing I aspire to is a big boat with a diesel inboard (or inboards)

In fact if I ever find myself wanting one, I know i will be time to break out the old Yacht and sail off into the sunrise - as my time will be up.

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Old 01 May 2002, 19:07   #10
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sticking up for diesel owners

And eh... excuse me, but what is wrong with a diesel inboard?

Have us diesel owners missed something? that is not waterly correct? from a petrol head point of view?

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