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30 March 2009, 11:34
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Edinburgh
Boat name: Saffina
Make: Tornado
Length: 6m +
Engine: 70 petrol outboard
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 44
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Converting outboards to autogas!!!
A local garage converts petrol cars to autogas which comes in about £600+ for the convertion to 60p per litre fuel. The savings pay for the work pretty quickly! About 32 tanks of fuel!
I disussed the idea of converting my 90hp mariner outboard engine and he saw no reason why it couldn't be done. The 15L gas cannisters used for heaters etc could be used as convenient and safe fuel tanks (and are cheaper as they don't attract vehicle fuel duty! ssshhhhh!!). You'd still need a petrol supply for warming on start up and as as fall back should gas not be available, but changing gas tanks still way less messy than petrol!
My mariner is a bit long in the tooth and I was hoping to upgrade at some point to twin 60hp, this may double my costs sadly, but still at 2 miles to the litre it is worth considering over the life of a new engine.
Has anyone experience of outboard gas convertions?
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30 March 2009, 11:46
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Poole
Length: 3m +
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 62
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I believe some harbour master boats round here have run on lpg, either Hondas or Mariner's. 4 stroke of course.
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30 March 2009, 14:22
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Gloucestershire
Boat name: Pigs Ear
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 7m +
Engine: Honda 225
MMSI: 235090881
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 3,132
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Originally Posted by Stevie J
A local garage converts petrol cars to autogas which comes in about £600+ for the convertion to 60p per litre fuel. The savings pay for the work pretty quickly! About 32 tanks of fuel!
I disussed the idea of converting my 90hp mariner outboard engine and he saw no reason why it couldn't be done. The 15L gas cannisters used for heaters etc could be used as convenient and safe fuel tanks (and are cheaper as they don't attract vehicle fuel duty! ssshhhhh!!). You'd still need a petrol supply for warming on start up and as as fall back should gas not be available, but changing gas tanks still way less messy than petrol!
My mariner is a bit long in the tooth and I was hoping to upgrade at some point to twin 60hp, this may double my costs sadly, but still at 2 miles to the litre it is worth considering over the life of a new engine.
Has anyone experience of outboard gas convertions?
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Im not a great fan of LPG conversions the engine tends to run hotter and on the Rangerover I had converted I had head gasket problems which I attribute to the gas conversion.
I would say any savings over the life of the engine would be offset by the shortening of its life !
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30 March 2009, 15:17
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,788
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But outboards have plenty of cooling anyway. It would be easy enough on a carb engine but what about some of the latest high tech ones? I know you can do it for cars but would anyone bother making the correct injection systems etc for an outboard as it's such a small market.
You could use the huge 47kg propane bottles on a big RIB or the smaller 19kg ones - you would have to put the valves facing the stern as it's liquid and not gas you want.
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30 March 2009, 15:20
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#5
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Up Norf
Make: Avon SR4,Tremlett 23
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yam 55, Volvo 200
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 4,997
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£600 seems far too cheap for a LPG conversion.
What kits are they using?
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30 March 2009, 15:30
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#6
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Trade member
Country: UK - England
Town: St. Austell,Cornwall
Boat name: Essa
Make: Ribtec 5.85
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 optimax
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,319
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If set up properly engines should have no problem on lpg, my V8 has been on it now for 8 years, we put in a high torque cam a couple of years ago and she was really clean inside. Lpg is a much higher octane than petrol BUT the ignition needs serious recalibration or problems will occur, I've got a power amp fitted that advances then retards for whichever fuel I'm on.
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30 March 2009, 16:30
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#7
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
Make: Avon8.4, 5.4 & 4.777
Length: 8m +
Engine: Cat3126 Yam 90 &70
MMSI: 42
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,760
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marinautic
I believe some harbour master boats round here have run on lpg, either Hondas or Mariner's. 4 stroke of course.
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True but not for long, it was the hamble harbour master using Honda's
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31 March 2009, 00:22
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Linlithgow
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: 2 stroke YAM 20 HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 5,855
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chewy
£600 seems far too cheap for a LPG conversion.
What kits are they using?
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- I know someone (local) who would probably pay this for a car conversion if that price is right...
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31 March 2009, 05:48
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Up Norf
Make: Avon SR4,Tremlett 23
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yam 55, Volvo 200
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 4,997
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For my 5 cylinder Volvo its £1200 and thats very cheap.
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02 April 2009, 00:01
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#10
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,788
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Depends where you get the kits from - imported direct from Italy or Holland they are cheap but they are a lot cheaper here as well now.
http://www.lpg-kits.com/vsgi4.htm
Sequntial injection for a modern 4 cylinder is about £400.
You can install the kit yourself or get someone local to do it - then they will check it over and give you a proper certificate.
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