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Old 19 July 2006, 12:05   #31
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OK, my engine is a 1996 849cc triple 2 stroke 50hp, same cc as the 60 and 70. Any idea what they do to restrict these?
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Old 21 July 2006, 11:25   #32
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For those who are interested, midrange yams ie 50, 60, 70 have same block but different carbs and possibly head so not to difficult but could be expensive to upgrade!
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ah nos,glad to see that you are around b/c you are probably the best one to ask about doing a horsepower upgrade to a 40hp Mercury. have you tried it? is it possible?? how about yammie 75 going to 90??
Sorry, only just saw this Pete.

Don't know about the yammies-never owned one.

That 40 merc of yours has a powerhead that looks strikingly similar to the old blueband 50-which never actually made more than 45hp at the prop anyway as they were crank rated at 50hp. If it's the same powerhead I'd leave it as a 40. I've never looked at the 2 side by side though so I'm not really qualified to comment.

The trouble with wanting to up horsepower in general on larger outboards is that unless you've got the blueprints or both engines in front of you then there's no way to tell what to do.
Just because an engine uses the same block doesn't mean it uses the same carbs,main/idle jets,head profile,or pistons for a start-or the same size reeds,transfer or exhaust ports. You'd need to know the full specs for the ignition system too. It's very easy from a manufacturing POV to change a programme on a CNC machine to change port heights/sizes on the assembly line and get a few assembly monkeys to fit parts from a different box but a totally different proposal to do it all by hand.

The other thing to beware of is something it appears Yam used to do on motorcycle engines back in the 70's (It probably doesn't apply now and it's an observation based on what I've seen so don't sue me!).

The Yam xs250 (25hp) and xs400 (40hp)SOHC twins had the same bottom end bar the output sprocket-the only differences were the barrels,pistons,head and cam. Yet if you fitted the 400 top end to the 250 they didn't last very long-usually throwing main or big end bearings. The only thing anyone could suggest as the reason for this was that the larger hp/capacity engines got the cranks that were better balanced and closest to machining tolerances and vice versa.

It's realistically cheaper and less hassle to sell the engine you've got and buy a bigger one if you want more HP.
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thanks nos,
kinda what i figured.
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Hi, Are you sure that bending the throttle stop out of the way is a safe thing to do? Will the engine over rev because the throttle restricter has been bent out of the way? I've looked in the Yamaha Service manual and parts manual for the 1997 models and the only difference is the reed valve assembly in the 15 hp allows the reed valves to open wider which allows more fuel and air into the compression chambers and increases the HP. I even found some info that indicated that the reed valve stops in the 9.9 can be formed slightly to the same specs as the 15 HP Reed Valve assembly so it really isn't necessary to replace the 9.9 reed valve assembly just adjust it.
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You're about 6 years too late fella
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What kind of answer is that? I was only asking if there was the possibly of the engine over revving if the throttle restrictor was formed out of the way?
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What kind of answer is that? I was only asking if there was the possibly of the engine over revving if the throttle restrictor was formed out of the way?
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What kind of answer is that? I was only asking if there was the possibly of the engine over revving if the throttle restrictor was formed out of the way?
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I even found some info that indicated that the reed valve stops in the 9.9 can be formed slightly to the same specs as the 15 HP Reed Valve assembly so it really isn't necessary to replace the 9.9 reed valve assembly just adjust it.
Would be worth seeing both reed valve assemblies side by side to see the differences.
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