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Old 30 October 2003, 21:11   #31
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Are you trying to say I am a liar?
No but Rib International is if your claims are correct. Maybe it was bad editing because it came over as though you had carried out these operations as opposed to just thinking about them. Apart from your dreams and the occasional sail in your yacht i repeat my request for your experience of planing boats because according to your reply to (march 9th at 1603) Jon fuller on the Volvo engine for Crazyhorse thread, you admitted to having no experience of planing boats. Are you another manos?

Take a look Here

I am surprised, considering your investment and considerable research in Carswell, that you do not know that their core business is in aluminium garden furniture. I do find that your use of abusive names such as nobb and wanker demonstrates the fact that you are on the defensive.

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Old 30 October 2003, 21:13   #32
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thats what i thought. I don't know how long i can hang on . If i do the engine i pick must be around 500-600kg, as there will be no time to strengthen the hull for a heavier motor. If yamaha do bring out a new electronic diesel, i'll pounce on it. Where did you here about this?
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Old 30 October 2003, 21:44   #33
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Stuart They dont make and never have made garden furniture,they make aluminium ribs and police boats in aluminium.

My Experiance of plaining boats Stuart is hopefully more than yours ,but i dont realy care as you can tell fibs about your experiance and nobody can tell till you end up in the drink or do someting crazy and put otheres at risk.

If it makes you happy your a very experianced riber who knows the sea and all it ways.Are you happy know.

Speak to Carswell about there garden furniture if you want just dont waste my time as I am trying to help somebody who is obviously going through the dificulties of working out what is the best and important decision he can make with regards engines.


I have heard it on the trade grape vine as all the engine makers are now having to consider electronicks as being the future with emisions laws ect.

I would speak to Yamaha and see if they will tell you anything officialy,I heard about some testing in the states of the Cummins/Mercruiser combo unit and Cummins UK comfirmed the 370 hp engine has electronic fuel cooling but the 320Hp doesnt yet,This was early last yr ? .

A forum member in the states who believed he had seen a leg on test it in Florida from Cummins mercruser .But it wasnt officile.

I heard about the B6 early last yr but heard it was planned to be able to go up to 375hp this was well before any official anouncment.



Its a bad time for buying an engine as its so difficult to now whats happening in the long term and none of us want to splash all that money out and find out we just been superseeded.

But hay it happens and what the hell,You have to jump in at some time and there will always be something better round the corner but at least your doing it .

Time for bedebows.

Tara and good luck.
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Old 30 October 2003, 22:02   #34
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Beuty sleep

Stuart I have as much experiance of plaining boats as the averge man.I have owned three speed boats 2 ribs and 3 sibs. 2 dinghys and one offshore yacht,But wouldnt say I am a expert on plaining boats nor are you for sure.If I need an expert for advice on a paticular aspect and its important then I will ask one and listen to them .

This unfortunatly precludes you Stuart,but dont Take it to hart,I am sure you wouldnt ask me either.



Must go as its bedy bows and I need my beauty sleep.



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Old 30 October 2003, 22:06   #35
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"My experience of planing boats Stuart is hopefully more than yours"!!!!

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None but I do know people who have the experience and I listen and get proffesional advice if I think it is needed,
I am confused!!!


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Old 30 October 2003, 22:13   #36
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Old 30 October 2003, 22:40   #37
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Well, i've waited and waited but obviously there are some questions that cant be answered without a serious loss of credibility. I think I'll just go and enjoy my new ali garden lights

ni ni

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Old 31 October 2003, 05:26   #38
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REDBAY 8.4

Hi Redbay rover, I have seen 2, 8.4 redbays with the yanmars in them with the bravo 3x drive, and both owners say that they are delighted with them, As Volvo goes, they loose about 35hp to the yanmar.......

The yamaha 240 and the yanmar 300 are the same block, in fact its the same block used by Toyota also, its a Yamaha designed engine, which is built under licence buy different engine companies, ie yanmar, toyota, lugger, kaboto etc ........... the problem is the legs taking the power....

Bravo legs are avalable to anyone, but volvo legs arent sold to anyone else, they are the best. The new X legs by mercruser seem to be better and more reliable the the older ones, but I am sure they have problems too

I think Yamaha will launch a new 350 or 375 based on the 4.2 current block, but the leg is the problem...... Alan Priddy went through 2 on his trip....

IN my view I would go Yanamar, because 1. the engines are more common and easy to find parts for..... 2. Mercruser legs are in the US and secondhand and new parts are handyer to get..... 3. less coplacted that superchargers and turbos.... ie remote part of scotland your average tractor mechanic could fix the engine......4. more power .........
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Old 31 October 2003, 07:07   #39
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Tim; you mentioned that AP went through two Hydradrives on his trip, wasn't one of these incidents a collision with an underwater object which physically broke the drive.

If that is the case then only one unit failed, and as his trip was quite a big one then maybe the failure rate becomes a little more respectable.

Also if Volvo legs are not used on anything other than a Volvo, who says that the outdrives are the best.....Volvo owners? and in which case is that an objective or a subjective opinion by those owners or Volvo agents/mechanics.

For the record I wouldn't put a Cat into a Rib unless purely for commercial reasons. i.e big low revving lumps that will work all year round. Our engine is a 12.4 litre V8 that redlines at 3 K and produces 440hp and weighs 1.5 tonnes plus. I was just looking for a hungry mackeral at the time when I said that Redbay should put a Cat in his Rib.

I meet a lot of boat people out on the water and I tend to talk to them and I do know there is a lot more happier Yan/Yam owners out there that Volvo's owners. Given this there is a guy who post as Seafariskye who swears by ovlov's he runs his boat every day and he makes a living with em in the cold bits of the country

If it was my boat then I would follow your conclusions and buy a Yanamar or even a Yamhar with the legs you reccomend. Don't forget the shower unit though if you are putting a 3x leg on.

Gaelforce I hope you have been entertained by this thread!
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Old 31 October 2003, 08:04   #40
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"Gaelforce I hope you have been entertained by this thread!"

I certainly have I see the 2 of you where up in the early hours locking Horns.

Much better than watching paint dry - keep it up
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