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Old 08 December 2015, 12:32   #11
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Charging battery from outboard

Jump starting a car engine?

That's pretty impressive if it can.

Let us know how you get on.
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Hi.
Being from SW Scotland my meaning of brand new is - "decent".
Didn't mean "new in the job".
Chap was happy to assist in me in acquiring the parts for the outboard and sounded knowledgeable about the process.
Wasn't in a rush to hang up eithers.
After explaining my requirements ie enough power to last a 3 or 4 days in the wild, camping fishing etc he suggested the power pack as I already have several other batteries.
I've not made my mind up as of yet but the independent reviews certainly sound good.
There is youtube videos of it jump starting a freelander.
His suggestion was to run the fishfinder, charge the plotter and my mobile phone as well as the handheld vhf from the power pack.
Use my 20ah for my fixed VHF and keep my 2 x 7 ah as spares should I require them.
The beauty of the power pack idea is that it can be used for many other applications not to mention jump starting a car!
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Jeff, think you might be misunderstanding Kaman's way of using describing the salesman as 'brand new' ! 😃

Clyde Outboards only give good honest experienced advice based on info rcvd from customer. I suspect the turning down of a potential sales was based on honesty rather than laziness.

As you say, it's Kaman's choice if he feels it'd work better for him all round.
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I might be and don't doubt they are very good,but charging with something that needs charging? Able to start a 4x4 650 cranking amps? He has power on tap with the charging coil and if other equipment needs charging (hand held vhf)can be done off a cigar socket take off as can other stuff.also taking batteries out to charge at night when finished a pain don't know what the charge rate is but his coil will chuck 12amps @ 14 volts more than capable since it's designed to cope with electric start models also running electronics.OMO but hope he gets sorted.

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Old 08 December 2015, 13:08   #14
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My apologies for the miss interpretation Kaman.

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Well I spent half my life in Glasgae and still misinterpreted Kamans 'Brand New'... Bringing back memories of the lingo now.

However, I'd still be wanting to use the alternator. Do you trail or inflate? Trail you need to secure all those batteries, inflate you are adding to setup time.

If I had a spare 250 I'd fit both. If I had 100 I'd take the motorbike parts...

Think poly runs his engine from a cheaper version (charges from engine, supplies whatever electrics he has from it).
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Old 08 December 2015, 13:52   #16
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I trail the sib.
Only lasted one year before I built a trailer for it.
Batteries are stowed and secured in the bow box out if sight and take up very little room one they ard strapped in.
They actually help planing by adding bow ballast.
In relation to the weight of other supplies that normally accompany my overnight jaunts my 2 x 7 ah and 1 x 20 ah battery don't weight that much.
Less than a slab of beer lol!
I'm probably only going to keep my Sib another year or two before upgrading it to something bigger .
Battery pack might be a short term solution as I will require a larger outboard for my Sibs replacement.
Will definitely be getting an outboard with charging capabilities as standard next time around.
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So if there is a future upgrade... You can charge battery pack off it. FYI those packs don't usually let you charge and consume power at same time.

But if upgrading do u need the pack in the new world? Cheap n cheery sounding all the better for 2016 to me...
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So if there is a future upgrade... You can charge battery pack off it. FYI those packs don't usually let you charge and consume power at same time.

But if upgrading do u need the pack in the new world? Cheap n cheery sounding all the better for 2016 to me...
Agreed, looking at the parts tohatsu site they look very motor bike ish plus enough tech info to source so as shiny says could be done for a few quid,the charging coils around 45 if needed but dought it.
Or get 100amp hour deep cycle battery that will last a week?
Or dual cycle will start your car if required too.
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I might be and don't doubt they are very good,but charging with something that needs charging? Able to start a 4x4 650 cranking amps? He has power on tap with the charging coil and if other equipment needs charging (hand held vhf)can be done off a cigar socket take off as can other stuff.also taking batteries out to charge at night when finished a pain don't know what the charge rate is but his coil will chuck 12amps @ 14 volts more than capable since it's designed to cope with electric start models also running electronics.OMO but hope he gets sorted.



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Jeff, totally agree with all you've said.

Just not with your poor comment of Clyde Outboards (although you may have your reasons for this and that's your business) but was hoping it came from the simple misunderstanding I highlighted. I see Kaman has cleared this up also. IMO they're all 'brand new' that work there, but that would be for another thread !

I personally would also rather be charging up something electrical from a mechanical source giving good redundancy.
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Think poly runs his engine from a cheaper version (charges from engine, supplies whatever electrics he has from it).

I used to. A 30-40 quid power pack, but they just have a 21Ah battery inside. It's a convenient way to do it as it comes with cables, switches, 12v socket, voltage reading etc.

It's "properly" wired in now.




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FYI those packs don't usually let you charge and consume power at same time..
Eh?
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