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Old 11 January 2009, 18:12   #21
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....... Just floating ideas. [/QUOTE]



Yeah, and that's a crap one.

Any others?
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Old 11 January 2009, 18:34   #22
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....... Just floating ideas.


Yeah, and that's a crap one.

Any others? [/QUOTE]

Yes I agree with Mollers, for what it's worth as a "newbie" I don't see an advantage either.
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You can do that with a single lever though
Ofcourse, but for me I like being able to have the engine ticking over and shoot the revs up quick with out the minuet pause you get with single lever. Specially good when maintaining a fixed position bow to the tide.

The difference is slight and I well understand what your all saying. But having used this system allot I like it.
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Yeah, and that's a crap one.

Any others? [/quote]

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How about fitting a tiller to your 115? It's an idea.
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..I like being able to have the engine ticking over and shoot the revs up quick with out the minuet pause you get with single lever.....
Where does this pause come from with a single lever control box?

Once you're in gear, the throttle action is immediate. Far quicker than engaging gear with one lever, then leaving go of that to move your hand to the 2nd lever to activate the throttle

Is your single lever control box working correctly?
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Have you thought about the pause you'll encounter by taking your hand off the control box to alter the trim on your console mounted trim switch when you get up on the plane.

Why have 3 controls when 1 will do the job?
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LOL really touched with this one

Right, as I said before all single lever controls I've used (and this doesn't count for the 703 as I haven't used it yet) have had a very slight pause when you go from neutral to move. It really isn't noticeable except on big inboards where the cable is moving big gears around. It's still been there on the outboards I've used but nothing you would notice. However for the fluid movement of already being in gear plus being that use to using this type of control I like it. The technique of going from forwards to reverse is easy to master and yes it is easier with single but once your used to it it's easy.
Biggest down fall as you say is the trim switch being away from the column.

Not forgetting something here lads, I didn't start this thread by saying you should all use this system it's better than what you've got. I like it, can't say it enough. And just wanted to know if anyone had done it and where was the best place to shop.
Looking around at the prices of a decent twin lever that would fit a console, it looks an expensive I could do with using elsewhere. Idea for the future though.
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How about fitting a tiller to your 115? It's an idea.
Cracking idea, may interrupt my rear parking sensors on the transom though
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...It really isn't noticeable except on big inboards where the cable is moving big gears around.
I'm not with you here. Could you explain?

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...Idea for the future though.
As Mollers said earlier, 'a crap one'
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I'm not with you here. Could you explain?
Not talking about RIB's here, talking about large 6ltr+ diesel engines in semi/displacement hulls.



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As Mollers said earlier, 'a crap one'
That's up to you.
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Not talking about RIB's here, talking about large 6ltr+ diesel engines in semi/displacement hulls.
So, you're saying that with a big diesel inboard, a cable moves big gears around?

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That's up to you.
And many others. How many Prop driven sportsboats have you seen with twin lever controls? There could be a message there...
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Brad, the cables control the selector and you knew I meant that.

And no I haven't seen any sports boats using them. And I wont be using mine as a sports boat. Just a very stable tub that can go fast enough if I need it. And at the end of a very long thread, who gives a crap as long as I like it?

Now, found my own suppliers but if anyone knows of any cheaper ones let me know. Cheers
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How much, so we can compare?

How about this for fifty odd quid?:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Twin-Lever-Eng...1%7C240%3A1318
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I'm a bout a third of my way through a litre of this stuff, BTW it's very good for cleaning carbs out, , and I'm beginning to get mellow and find this thread very entertaining with some truly Fulleresque comments from Dai and Mollers which I agree with!

It is my belief that taking the interlock out of a rib/outboard combination is dangerous and therefore shoudn't be done. So don't do it!
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It is my belief that taking the interlock out of a rib/outboard combination is dangerous and therefore shoudn't be done. So don't do it!
Agree.

Saw a nasty incident partly due to a lack of an interlock on a Pacific 22 in Lymington a few years ago. Chap jumped out of the boat when it was alongside, flicked the bow rope from one side of the console to the other - caught the throttle lever - instant full speed ahead! Totalled three RIBS that were moored up. Ended up on top of the pontoon!

Back to the single / twin lever options:
Sounds like the single lever set up you have needs some adjustment. You should get a definite click into gear AND THEN NO MORE SLACK TO INCREASE REVS.
Should be the same whether outboard or inboard diesel.
If not then there is either a loose cable clamp inside the head unit, worn detent springs / ball etc or worn throttle cable ends.

Have used twin lever systems on inboard engines and they can be quite good on hydraulic boxes. Allows a slightly higher idle speed which can be nice for maneouvering. Have also used them on a twin sterndrive set-up. Awful.

Give it a go and let us know how you find it.
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Saw a nasty incident partly due to a lack of an interlock on a Pacific 22 in Lymington a few years ago. Chap jumped out of the boat when it was alongside, flicked the bow rope from one side of the console to the other - caught the throttle lever - instant full speed ahead!
That would be due to lack of a neutral lock on the control lever, which I also dislike on an open boat.

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Unless fiddling with two Knobs at once is what you like doing of course

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David Manning was aquitted of those charges , it was just the one! , remind me again what the IOM flag looks like. Hope you are all loking forward to the Ribnet conference
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How many Prop driven sportsboats have you seen with twin lever controls? There could be a message there...
Well, almost all American sports/powerboats use twin lever, and in the case of twin engined boats, you haven't really got any choice!
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