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Old 01 September 2013, 13:51   #11
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So you are on the Honda/Mariner/Yamaha stand at SBS and have 12k or whatever it is burning a hole in your pocket... and you say "where's your nearest decent dealer to the North West..." if they say Bill Higham you say "I said decent" and get your best response.
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Old 01 September 2013, 13:58   #12
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You mentioned outboard and marine in Liverpool only dealing with Suzuki & Tohatsu. Have you considered the DF140? I have one and know of two others, all bought in 2008 with (touch wood) no issues at all. I use a Tohatsu 6hp aux, which is fine, Though i couldn't comment on their bigger motors.
My Suzuki came with my Humber but I've always had it serviced at Dickies in Bangor. They've always been helpful and reasonably priced.
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CJJ, you've sussed it! The Suzuki DF140 is one of two engines I'm left considering; everything I've read about them is positive, particularly the relatively miserly fuel consumption and their reliability. The other is the straight Mercury 150hp 4 stroke (not the Verado fly by wire) but where are the Mercury dealerships in the North West?
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Hmmmmm, I admire your equilibrium. I'd call a broken saddle on an engine under warranty a tad more than a 'teething problem' but it's good to hear it was sorted to your satisfaction by LPB.
Agreed... that was a lot more than a teething problem but!! the fault was Etec's not LPB and it was sorted under warranty.
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I reckon on a litre per mile attached to a 6.3m Humber at higher end cruising speeds, slight chop, with 5 adults and 150-200 ltrs of fuel on board. That's approx half the consumption of my last Suzuki which was a DT140 2 stroke! The DF is very quiet too.
What boat will it be fitted to??
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I reckon on a litre per mile attached to a 6.3m Humber at higher end cruising speeds, slight chop, with 5 adults and 150-200 ltrs of fuel on board. That's approx half the consumption of my last Suzuki which was a DT140 2 stroke! The DF is very quiet too.
What boat will it be fitted to??
A new build. I'm leaning VERY heavily toward an Osprey but not decided which one. I've met Mike Whitham, been to his 'factory' in Lancashire and he's undoubtedly a superb hull builder. The tubes for the Osprey are manufactured and fitted in Lancashire too so as I live in the North West if there are any issues with the hull or tubes, it's a relatively local visit rather than a trip to (say) Taunton or Hull.

The engine choice is more complicated. They're all manufactured thousands of miles away, use complicated electronics and ECUs and you're left in the hands of their dealership network to diagnose and sort out any issues. It's no longer a DIY job or a visit to a 'back-street' man with an oily rag who can work some magic.

So, in my view, the quality and professionalism of the aftersales support from the local dealership is THE defining issue. I could get a fantastic deal initially, use only 0.5 litres per mile, get 50 knots WOT but when it goes wrong/needs attention/servicing, I'm conscious it could all go t*ts very quickly!
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Mes aren't rib orientated IMHO - they're more jet ski dinghy canoe orientated

We use ABC marine in Beaumaris during season and for pre and post season work, who are a merc dealers. They're not cheap for work but who are?!!! they have also have been great for any warranty stuff even when small, despite not even selling us our engine!

the mechanics are local RNLI boys and really good guys!!!
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Although it was a few years ago when I last had a Mercury, I found Outboard & Hydroplane Services Ltd in Ormskirk very good for parts and repairs.
Dulas Boats on Anglesey supplied a Yamaha 4 stroke to a friend and have carried out various repairs and servicing on a variety of makes of engines. I think they are dealers for Mariner, Evinrude and Yamaha.
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Although it was a few years ago when I last had a Mercury, I found Outboard & Hydroplane Services Ltd in Ormskirk very good for parts and repairs.
Dulas Boats on Anglesey supplied a Yamaha 4 stroke to a friend and have carried out various repairs and servicing on a variety of makes of engines. I think they are dealers for Mariner, Evinrude and Yamaha.
Outboard and Hydroplane are long gone, but I think the guy who used to run it is still working as a mobile mechanic.

I used to use them to service my Mercruiser inboard and leg, great service and reasonable price.
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Oi Barrowboy stop hijacking my thread - Only joking!

I would also recommend Mike Whitham as got some seats and consoles made by him - A top man and a nice guy!

Anyway the Mrs has X-Factor on the TV and cause I'm bored and sad I'm going to try and compile a list on what engine dealers/mechanics we have in the North West. The dealer highlighted in in Bold Italic is where a ribnetter has made a recommendation

Please feel free to add to the list!

Honda - Metheley Chandeler's (although not really in North West), Liverpool Power boats, Midway boats in Nantwich, Powersport Manchester, Bridgehouse Marina and Caravan Park in Garstang

Mercury / Mariner - MJ Marine (again not in NW), Bill Higham, Liverpool Power Boats, MES marine, ABC marine, Douglas boat yard in Preston, Bridgehouse Marina and Caravan Park in Garstang,Delta in stockport, Shipshape marine

Suzuki - Outboard and Marine Liverpool, Dickies in Bangor, National A1 marine, Nationwide marine hire warrington, warrior boats in preston, powersport ltd in manchester, Marine tec ltd, Pennine Marine in Skipton, dickes in bangor, skua chesterfield, Dulas boat and caravan company

Tohatsu - Outboard and Marine Liverpool, Menai marine, Liverpool power boats, sea hunter boats in blackpool, Douglas marine in Preston

Evinrudes - Liverpool Power Boats, Dulas boat and caravan anglessey, Lyn Marine Services Ltd in Pwehilli

Yamaha - Liverpool Power Boats, Midway boats in Nantwich, Shipshape Marine in stockport, Pennine Marine in Skipton, GW doling and son in Barrow in Furness, Dulas Boat and caravan park Anglesey, Blue water marine in Pwelli, Maiden Marine in Winderemere

By using dealer locator function on manufacturers websites I was surprised what the search engine came up with as I have never heard of some of these places and am very dubious as to what dealer repairs and facilities that some of these places have.

I like the Yamaha 4 strokes and was wondering if anyone has had any experience with any of the dealers I have listed?

Anyway looks like she has turned over now to Dragon's Den, doh its nearly finished
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