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Old 29 October 2004, 11:24   #21
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we have a suzuki 6hp four stroke on 8M scorpion. We have been forced to use it several times this summer With no wind and tide effect it makes 6Knts with main leg up at push.
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Old 29 October 2004, 12:50   #22
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Well its finally happened after lots of searching and lots of helpful tips from this forum. I am now the proud owner of a 7.5 Scorpion rib.

Actually to anybody looking for a rib this is a good time, many people think about selling, many becuase they did not use it much and considered it alot of money just sitting there.

Anyway, my question, i am going to get a back-up engine, i was thinking 5-6 hp just to get me home, the reason i say this hp is because MBM did a section on this quite recently
congrats on the scorpion. good hull. Dont know what engine you have?
It would have been better to have two engines. A small 5 hp motor ain't going to push you anywhere.To get over the fuel problem in the main tanks
always carry a 50 liter plastic can and sufficent rubber tubing so that you can take off the fuel line to the engine and run the engine from the backup 50 liter .90% of problems with OBs comes from fuel contamination.

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Old 29 October 2004, 13:15   #23
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So when reverse mounted, to use it you have to unmount it and turn it round? Sounds like it could easily be dropped over the side whilst trying to move it in a hurry!!

I have an inboard diesel - the engine box means that I can't mount anything on the transom in a 'conventional' way - no room. So I guess I'd have to mount it on a bracket - like GaryGee did on his Ribcraft. My worry is that it would need to be mounted quite low on the transom (it's a tall transom), so wouldn't be able to leave it there full time.

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Old 30 October 2004, 14:58   #24
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Is this any help??

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So when reverse mounted, to use it you have to unmount it and turn it round? Sounds like it could easily be dropped over the side whilst trying to move it in a hurry!!

I have an inboard diesel - the engine box means that I can't mount anything on the transom in a 'conventional' way - no room. So I guess I'd have to mount it on a bracket - like GaryGee did on his Ribcraft. My worry is that it would need to be mounted quite low on the transom (it's a tall transom), so wouldn't be able to leave it there full time.

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I'm looking at optons myself
http://www.cabelas.com/products/Cpod0000921.jsp
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Old 01 November 2004, 05:32   #25
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Hmm...interesting.

Funny that the 10HP and 20HP version aren't designed for 4-strokes, or salt water!!

I've seen kit like this before, and I would guess that a long shaft 6HP engine and 14" of travel should keep it up high enough that it wouldn't be a problem. I'll have to get the tape measure out next time I go down to the boatyard......

As a rule of thumb, what height should the prop be relative to the bottom of the transom? Should the cavitation plate be level with the bottom of the transom at that point, or higher, or lower?

Ah well, at least I don't have to worry about plumbing the outboard into the main fuel tank......

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Old 01 November 2004, 15:40   #26
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I'm trying to ship a diesel outboard.....

from Florida!

I've sourced a zongshen 6HP in Florida, and am currently working on a cheap
way of getting it home.

Any ideas would be welcome , I've been trying to get it into a part consignment, but no luck yet.
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Old 01 November 2004, 16:10   #27
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Humm. engine home from Florida huh?

The easy way would be to make sure its drained of fuel and oil and vented for 48 hours prior to shipment. In shipping terms this should turn it from a hazardous good to an innert product. Then you could get it back with one of the main intergrators, (Fedex, DHL, UPS).

If you want to go cheaper and slower the best bet is to try and get it with a groupage consignent as you say. I generally dont use consolidators at work because they dont like carrying my cargoes for security / insurance reasons but would think Schenkers or She Maritime or someone like that would be able to help.

Be careful when you do get it back to make sure you dont get stung for the import duties. if its new you are suposed to declare the value and pay duties and VAT accordingly. if its second hand you need to declare a "realistic" Value but you might get away duty free if you can clame they are british returned goods. (Not strictly true tho! )

Remember if you declare a low value for customs your also declaring a low value for insurance so if anything nasty were to happen you are screwed!

hope this helps.
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Old 01 November 2004, 16:33   #28
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Thanks....

... for the advice. I suspect I'll have to pay the duty. DHL quoted crazy price
which is why I'm looking for groupage. You'd think Dublin would make it easy
with all the logisitic companies and the Celtic Tiger, however I've been advised it might be easier to U.K.

The only hurry is for next spring!!
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Old 01 November 2004, 16:37   #29
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reverse mount

piccies as requested.

Engine fitted wrong way round on the transom plus a pad lock to ensure she does not come loose. Leg (over the aux tank) is strapped to deck. Dual fuel feeds to aux and to main tank.

And btw the engine is light enough to lift off the transom and reverse quite quicky and easily.
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And btw the engine is light enough to lift off the transom and reverse quite quicky and easily.
In a force 6 or 7? Rather you than me Brucie.
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