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24 October 2009, 20:23
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: caRiBoo
Make: Avon
Length: 3m +
Engine: Suzuki DF25
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Avon Rover 340 - 25hp 2-stroke or 20hp 4-stroke?
Evening all. New member here seeking some advice. Have just bought my first RIB (in fact, my first boat), a 2002 Avon Rover 340. It is currently a bare boat (ie no console or seating) and is fitted with an older Mariner Marathon 15hp. My intention is to fit a side console and bench seat, and to replace the Mariner with a larger, remote outboard.
The transom is rated to a max 25hp and max engine weight of 62kg. This effectively gives me the choice of a 25hp 2-stroke, or a 20hp 4-stroke. I'm not too bothered about out and out speed, but don't want to buy a 4-stroke and then find it's not powerful enough to get the boat up on the plane with two adults aboard.
Can anyone advise as to whether the 20hp 4/s would suffice, or would I need to go with a 25hp 2/s ?
Would appreciate your opinions, particularly from anyone with similarly sized and equipped RIBs.
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24 October 2009, 21:42
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: caRiBoo
Make: Avon
Length: 3m +
Engine: Suzuki DF25
Join Date: Oct 2009
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Incidentally, I don't have the budget for a brand new engine so will be looking for a good 3 to 6 year old motor. Other than Ebay and Boatsandoutboards.com, can anyone suggest any other sites listing/advertising a good selection of (UK located) used outboards?
Cheers!
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25 October 2009, 13:05
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Linlithgow
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: 2 stroke YAM 20 HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 5,855
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3.9 m boat with console (presumably heavier than yours) with 20HP 2str Yam happily planed in calm weather with 4 adults and 2 kids on board, 30L fuel, gear etc. So don't think you should have two much trouble whichever engine you opt for.
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25 October 2009, 19:15
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Country: Other
Town: Lima-Peru
Boat name: Nautile
Make: Sea Rider Boats
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 18 /30 HP
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 764
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NSS
Incidentally, I don't have the budget for a brand new engine so will be looking for a good 3 to 6 year old motor.
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If easy to find, go for a Mariner or Tohatsu 2 strokes 25 HP and retune it to 30 HP for peanuts, is same size & weight as a Tohatsu 30 HP, 52 kilos with extra 5 HP just in case.
Happy Boating
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25 October 2009, 20:40
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: caRiBoo
Make: Avon
Length: 3m +
Engine: Suzuki DF25
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Thanks guys. Must admit, I'm more inclined toward the 4-stroke 20hp option than the 25hp 2-stroke, so good to hear your experience with a 20hp on a loaded 3.9 RIB, Polwart.
Howver, I guess it's a case now of seeing what I can find within my budget.
I'd still appreciate any recommendations on good sources for used motors. Cheers!
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25 October 2009, 20:51
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Linlithgow
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: 2 stroke YAM 20 HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 5,855
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NSS
Thanks guys. Must admit, I'm more inclined toward the 4-stroke 20hp option than the 25hp 2-stroke, so good to hear your experience with a 20hp on a loaded 3.9 RIB, Polwart.
Howver, I guess it's a case now of seeing what I can find within my budget.
I'd still appreciate any recommendations on good sources for used motors. Cheers!
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Just realised you are talking RIB not SIB here. I'm sure you'll still get on the plane (I have an oddball boat that is neither but does have a rigid reasonable v-hull but lighter that a typical RIB).
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26 October 2009, 11:52
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: Wildheart
Make: Humber/Delta Seasafe
Length: 5m +
Engine: Merc 60 Clamshell
MMSI: 235068449
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 2,854
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Other plus side to the 4- stroke if you aren't bothereda bout flat out top sped is the 4- stroke will likely be quieter & more frugal at lower rpms.
If you get the prop pitch right planing should be no problem.
I had no issues with a Suzi DT25 on an Avon SR4. Said engine may be available soon, depending what happens with the Merc rebuild! (i.e once I know for sure that it's not going to be needed for more "standby duty" while I look for a replacement 60)
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26 October 2009, 14:46
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Dorset & Hants
Boat name: Streaker/Red Streak
Make: Avon/Bombard
Length: 4m +
Engine: 50Yam/25 Merc
Join Date: Apr 2007
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A mate runs a 20 Honda on a 3.5 & regularly does 20 mile runs to the Isle of Wight & back - so reckon you wil be fine. You wont be going super quick , but I think will plane quite happily as I think the hulls are quite flat so will plane with a lower HP than say an SR4 .
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27 October 2009, 09:30
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: caRiBoo
Make: Avon
Length: 3m +
Engine: Suzuki DF25
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Thank you all for your comments. Much appreciated.
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