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Old 28 October 2012, 06:13   #31
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It also drinks a lot of fuel compared to the others and has the slowest top speed so for me it does not tick either of the main boxes I would want based on where I live and how i would use the boat

If however fuel was not stupidly high in price and I was buying purely for acceleration then this is what I would go for.

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I've now got one of the new 150 four stroke from Merc and it is amazing. It is not thirsty at all and we're very happy with it. More to the point the purchase price was streets ahead of anything else on the market!

I've tried Honda's in the past and the early 50hp 4 strokes were terrible. The servicing costs were terrible as well.

PLEASE don't bang on about fuel economy! Most leisure users don't even come close to recovering the costs. The main drivers will be purchase costs, servicing costs,

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Old 28 October 2012, 06:18   #32
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according to thet vid you do it yourself and scan the barcode and it connects you to your maintenance records? nice.
so that looks like you can and are encouraged to do the simple servicing yourself.

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Old 28 October 2012, 06:57   #33
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PLEASE don't bang on about fuel economy! Most leisure users don't even come close to recovering the costs. The main drivers will be purchase costs, servicing costs,

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Sorry I disagree as that depends on the user and hence varies from person to person as they all have different purchase criteria.

Many people buy Yams and Honda's because of their reputation , others dont think the premium price is worth it or can not afford it. Luckily for Yam and Honda many people do think the premium is worth it otherwise they would not sell many engines!

As for fuel economy, well again this depends on the person as our customers range from very few hours to over 300 and at the higher end of these it does make a huge difference so sorry we will need to agree to disagree. If it will not be used much i.e. very few hours then most buy 2nd hand as they would not make saving in fuel a new engine would give them.

Interestingly we also sell to various clubs and upfront money for a yam / honda is not a problem as this comes from a government grant ( loto funding for the last one that now has a Honda 150!) but the day to day running costs are paid for by their members so economy is vital to therm.


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Old 28 October 2012, 07:30   #34
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A trade member mentioned the "dealer" service requirement in another thread and it was posted here.

What you "believe", is simply untrue as proven by the warranty I posted earlier. These "criteria" do not need to be satisfied. If you choose to have maintenance done by someone other that yourself, that's fine.

Please don't discourage others and perpetuate falsehoods on a forum with hundreds of people looking for information.
I'm sorry but you're not even reading your own 'evidence' correctly. The manual clearly states that certain parts of the 100hr/annual services onwards must be serviced by an authorised dealer. Now if a person is happy to take this risk then I would advise them to contact their dealer or importer to set their mind at rest.
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It also drinks a lot of fuel compared to the others and has the slowest top speed so for me it does not tick either of the main boxes I would want based on where I live and how i would use the boat

If however fuel was not stupidly high in price and I was buying purely for acceleration then this is what I would go for.

enjoy

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Please add the disclaimer to your sig. "I am a Honda dealer, my posts are hugely biased." That way people can read them for what they are. Pure rubbish.

Your statements regarding fuel use have no basis in fact. This is not a Verado. It is also not an overweight pig, developed 15 years ago.
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Old 28 October 2012, 12:19   #36
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lets also be be honest hear as you state you dont trust reviews in magazines so where do you get your information from to say your engine was any good at all! how many people did you speak to and how many engines do you see each year?

I work with them for al living and would have a yam or honda over any mercury all the time. I just wish we also sold yam.

if however I lived in Canada where fuel was a lot cheaper and I did not need the yam/ honda reliability then I might possibly consider one and then buy a tohatsu
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http://www.mercury-marine.eu/media/8...arranty_en.pdf

take a look to clarify warranty terms for mercury and mariner in Europe. Would guess that the others have something similar as the rules in the eu are slightly more strict on servicing than in the us. Same as with servicing cars has to be done by at least a registered motor engineers using genuine parts
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I...would have a yam or honda over any mercury all the time.
Why do you promote mercury and mariner on your website homepage then?
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Same as with servicing cars has to be done by at least a registered motor engineers using genuine parts[/QUOTE]

Think you will find that is OEM spec or higher it doesn't need to be original (Quinton Hazell went to court with Ford who said there parts were inferior so couldn't be used for warranty claim, Ford lost as Quinton Hazell made ford genuine parts). Won't bother me I can't afford a new car and do all my own servicing anyway.
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I worked for main dealer who supplied mercury outboards , mercruiser and yam diesels. As long as genuine equipment or oem spec parts were used and competent person fitted the parts. A warranty a claim was never refused .
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