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Old 26 October 2012, 07:18   #11
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From a test of 150 hp outboards in a swedish boat magazine:

Boat used: Flipper 605 WA (6,15 meter x 2,32 meter, total weight at test 1400 kilogram, water temp 18 deg. Celsius

Honda BF150
Top RPM in test: 6000
Prop used: Honda HR, 3 blade, 20 inch pitch

a) Speed (knots):
At max rpm: 41,7
Minus 500 rpm: 37,2
Minus 1000 rpm: 32,6
Minus 1500 rpm: 29,1
Minus 2000 rpm: 25,5

b) Fuel consumtion (litre per nautical miles):
At max rpm: 1,27
Minus 500 rpm: 1,03
Minus 1000 rpm: 0,91
Minus 1500 rpm: 0,80
Minus 2000 rpm: 0,75

c) Noise (decibel):
At max rpm: 86
Minus 500 rpm: 84
Minus 1000 rpm: 82
Minus 1500 rpm: 81
Minus 2000 rpm: 80

d) Acceleration (sek):
0-30 knots: 9,2
15-30 knots: 6,8

Evinrude E-Tec 150
Top RPM in test: 5100
Prop used: Rebel, 3 blade, 21 inch pitch
a) Speed (knots):
At max rpm: 44,7
Minus 500 rpm: 40,3
Minus 1000 rpm: 33,8
Minus 1500 rpm: 30,0
Minus 2000 rpm: 24,9
b) Fuel consumtion (litre per nautical miles):
At max rpm: 1,38
Minus 500 rpm: 1,19
Minus 1000 rpm: 0,99
Minus 1500 rpm: 0,93
Minus 2000 rpm: 0,83

c) Noise (decibel):
At max rpm: 87
Minus 500 rpm: 85
Minus 1000 rpm: 83
Minus 1500 rpm: 80
Minus 2000 rpm: 78

d) Acceleration (sek):
0-30 knots: 8,0
15-30 knots: 5,6

Mercury Verado 150
Top RPM in test: 6200
Prop used: Mirage, 3 blade, 17 inch pitch

a) Speed (knots):
At max rpm: 41,2
Minus 500 rpm: 36,5
Minus 1000 rpm: 33,4
Minus 1500 rpm: 29,5
Minus 2000 rpm: 25,6

b) Fuel consumtion (litre per nautical miles):
At max rpm: 1,80
Minus 500 rpm: 1,45
Minus 1000 rpm: 1,30
Minus 1500 rpm: 1,04
Minus 2000 rpm: 0,77

c) Noise (decibel):
At max rpm: 87
Minus 500 rpm: 86
Minus 1000 rpm: 83
Minus 1500 rpm: 82
Minus 2000 rpm: 80

d) Acceleration (sek):
0-30 knots: 7,3
15-30 knots: 5,4


Suzuki DF150
Top RPM in test: 6000
Prop used: Suzuki, 3 blade, 23 inch pitch

a) Speed (knots):
At max rpm: 43,2
Minus 500 rpm: 39,4
Minus 1000 rpm: 36,4
Minus 1500 rpm: 32,0
Minus 2000 rpm: 27,8

b) Fuel consumtion (litre per nautical miles):
At max rpm: 1,26
Minus 500 rpm: 1,17
Minus 1000 rpm: 1,04
Minus 1500 rpm: 0,91
Minus 2000 rpm: 0,85

c) Noise (decibel):
At max rpm: 87
Minus 500 rpm: 85
Minus 1000 rpm: 84
Minus 1500 rpm: 79
Minus 2000 rpm: 78

d) Acceleration (sek):
0-30 knots: 8,9
15-30 knots: 5,4

Yamaha F150
Top RPM in test: 5600
Prop used: Yamaha Pro Series, 3 blade, 21 inch pitch

a) Speed (knots):
At max rpm: 44,3
Minus 500 rpm: 40,3
Minus 1000 rpm: 35,4
Minus 1500 rpm: 31,7
Minus 2000 rpm: 26,0

b) Fuel consumtion (litre per nautical miles):
At max rpm: 1,26
Minus 500 rpm: 1,10
Minus 1000 rpm: 0,95
Minus 1500 rpm: 0,84
Minus 2000 rpm: 0,78

c) Noise (decibel):
At max rpm: 87
Minus 500 rpm: 84
Minus 1000 rpm: 83
Minus 1500 rpm: 80
Minus 2000 rpm: 79

d) Acceleration (sek):
0-30 knots: 8,3
15-30 knots: 5,9

The above should help and I can also give the best price on the Honda in the uk
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Old 27 October 2012, 15:56   #12
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I purchased a new mercury 150 4 stroke about 4 months ago. This is the all new, non-verado unit. So far, it has been outstanding. Quiet, fuel efficient and plenty of power/speed.

What sets it apart from other four strokes. Large 3 litre displacement, simple single cam design with a timing chain (no belts to change or valves to adjust). All maintenance can be done by the owner... Oil changes are dead simple.
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Old 27 October 2012, 16:01   #13
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I purchased a new mercury 150 4 stroke about 4 months ago. This is the all new, non-verado unit. So far, it has been outstanding. Quiet, fuel efficient and plenty of power/speed.

What sets it apart from other four strokes. Large 3 litre displacement, simple single cam design with a timing chain (no belts to change or valves to adjust). All maintenance can be done by the owner... Oil changes are simple as well.
The only problem with that is if you DIY you won't be covered on the warranty so it has a bit of a sales patter to it it only really benefits the owner from year 5 onwards.

Superb engines though at a great price
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The only problem with that is if you DIY you won't be covered on the warranty so it has a bit of a sales patter to it it only really benefits the owner from year 5 onwards.

Superb engines though at a great price
Bollocks.

There is no requirement for dealer performed maintenance. In fact, making that a requirement For warranty coverage on this side of the pond is illegal. plenty of unscrupulous dealers will hint at it, as you have. Too many agents are trying to keep their service departments busy.
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http://www.mercurymarine.com/media/m...0062182_38.pdf

There's the proof. Just keep records.
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Bollocks.

There is no requirement for dealer performed maintenance. In fact, making that a requirement For warranty coverage on this side of the pond is illegal. plenty of unscrupulous dealers will hint at it, as you have. Too many agents are trying to keep their service departments busy.
We are by no means Unscrupulous dealers looking for service work - A we don't offer this service and B were not Mercury agents!

It's only what we've been advised by the dealers themselves. Personally I think its great that this new motor is aimed at offering a user-service option. That link you've sent offers excellent assistance on doing the work but it doesn't say weather it will remain within warranty by doing it. I guess its a case of waiting for some claims to get put in and seeing how the dealers evaluate the standard of "home" services carried out.

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Old 27 October 2012, 17:06   #17
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In the UK I believe that for the warranty to remain valid you have to be able to prove that :

1. The person performing the work is suitably qualified and trained
2. Correct equipment is available e.g. PC diagnostic tools
3. Manufacturer specified consumables were used
4. Provide proof that all maintenance was carried out at the correct manufacturer intervals (not very easy)

So yes, you can service it by yourself but can most people satisfy the above criteria.

In my own case I've recently bought a Yamaha f300. It's had one service at 250 so I expect that the total over 5 years will be around 1500 of which a substantial percentage will be vat and parts.
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Old 27 October 2012, 17:11   #18
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Peter, I wasn't inferring that you were unscrupulous, but obviously the agents who gave you the information are! You just happen to be helping them reinforce the myth.

Ppenman. I'm just referring to simple maintenance. Oil changes, plugs lube etc. The owner doesn't require diagnostic tools for that. Just like a car, these modern outboards will let the owner know when they need dealer attention ( warning codes etc)

My first service was completed by me. $50 for oil. $12 for the filter. Tax included. I already had the gear lube at home. 5 years service will be a fraction of yamaha service... Especially the belt/valve service. I expect those ones will be more expensive than your last one. That being said, the new F300 is a fine piece and will give you years of reliable service.
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Old 27 October 2012, 17:19   #19
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I have a 150L tank in the Vipermax with an E-TEC 150 and it's great - the old Humber had a much smaller tank, never was sure how big it was but down to 1/4 on the gauge would only take about 50L and it meant filling up every time. The E-TEC usually burns about 22-24lph at 26-27 knots which is a nice brisk cruise speed and keeps the revs around the mid 3000s, so you can leave with full fuel, spend a couple of hours tootling around and still have over 100L left. Buggering around filling up or swapping fuel tanks or watching the gauge and wondering is just a way to ruin an otherwise great day out, filling it up might hurt more but you burn the same amount of fuel in the end
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Old 27 October 2012, 17:23   #20
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Having just taken my engine to a dealer who managed to wreck a good running engine then charge me 470 for the pleasure of having a box of 'bits' I would say it's a lottery !!
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