50hp, long-shaft new or used?

[spartacus]

I've been deliberating over this for some time. I want to change my boat from a Pro 7 to a Seaquest 4.8m commercial. Their spec'd engine of choice is a Suzuki DF50, however at £5,800 new to £5,000 (depending how you source it) - it isn't cheap. To keep my budget and marriage on track, would you opt for a second-hand engine, and if so - which one?

At this mid-power range there are lots to choose from, including Yamaha (which would be my preferred choice), Tohatsu, Honda, Suzuki and Evinrude. I'm not considering Mercury, which probably rules out Mariner.

Suzuki 50DF weighs a hefty 110kg, produces 815cc and retails for £5,800 new or £6,100 for the DF60. Ouch. Only second-hand examples I've seen to date are with boats.

The Tohatsu 50 TLDi comes with a 3 year warranty, uses 2-stroke technology, lightest of the group at 93.5kg and generates 697cc. New at just over £4k, but some nearly new examples on the second hand market at over £3k.

Honda 50 LRTU is one of the most expensive at £6k, weighs 98kg but comes with a 6 year warranty. Scare second-hand examples (varying conditions) for around £2-3k.

Yamaha F50 FETL, 5 year warranty, currently comes with a deal for a free choice of propeller, control box and gauges to suit your set-up, weighs a hefty 110kg. As far as I can see the 60hp weighs the same. Only second-hand examples I've seen are with boats, or a second-hand big-foot gearbox version for £3k. Would this be any use?

Evinrude E-tec. I don't have any details yet.

Any advice appreciated.

[Downhilldai]

New:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/YAMAH...ssoriesQ5fGear

[spartacus]

Originally Posted by Downhilldai

New:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/YAMAH...ssoriesQ5fGear

Very nice engine. Works out about £3k, not sure if there is duty to pay at this end, no idea of delivery time (assuming it will be shipped and at what cost), and prop and controls are extra. Seems like a whole lot of trouble buying from abroad?

[Nos4r2]

Originally Posted by spartacus

Very nice engine. Works out about £3k, not sure if there is duty to pay at this end, no idea of delivery time (assuming it will be shipped and at what cost), and prop and controls are extra. Seems like a whole lot of trouble buying from abroad?

Except you can't buy it new here at all...

[gibbo500]

Originally Posted by Nos4r2

Except you can't buy it new here at all...

You can.....i think it is still available?

http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/BLO152

[Turbodiesel]

Just out of interest why not a Mercury?

[codprawn]

We can ship it!!!

[spartacus]

Originally Posted by Turbodiesel

Just out of interest why not a Mercury?

I deal with a Yamaha main dealer who service a lot of commercial RIBS and they simply doesn't rate them. I'm assuming they mean in terms of realiability, component quality, etc.

[Downhilldai]

You'll probably find a lot of dealers will slag off other brands

[spartacus]

Originally Posted by codprawn

We can ship it!!!

Out of interest - do you know how much it would be to ship it and the laws regarding VAT or duty at this end?

Thanks