200HP - 4 Cylinders.

Nasher · 20 September 2013, 17:19

Had a really nice day wandering round the Southampton boat show by myself yesterday, and as usual had a look at the shiny new engines.

I love my old Suzuki DT200EFI, it doesn’t even use shocking amounts of fuel in reality, and considering what I paid for it a few years ago now I’ve done well from it. It sounds awesome as well.

However I realise it’s getting on now, as it was built in 1998, and although it works fine the EFI system and mechanicals aren’t going to stay reliable forever.
It’s big benefit is of course it’s weight for a 200HP engine – 200Kgs.

Similar power 4 strokes have always been much heavier at @280gks, and even ETECs etc are @250Kgs.

I'm still considering a Diesel re-power, but noticed at the show that there is a new breed of 200HP 4 strokes from Yamaha and Mercury that are 4 cylinder blocks rather than V6’s, and come in at @230Kgs.

Question is, has anyone tried one?
Obviously in automotive circles 200HP from a 4 pot isn’t anything outrageous these days, but car engines don’t tend to run at near full power for very long.

Thoughts anyone?

Nasher.

Nos4r2 · 20 September 2013, 17:31

I suspect you'd miss the torque of a 2 stroke.

Optimax? Mine weighs in at 225kg. Sounds as good as your DT as well.

Turbodiesel · 20 September 2013, 19:54

The 200 Verado is an amazing engine (not just saying that as a dealer) its really good, bags of power and good for the weight being a 4 pot. Ultra reliable as well. Now fitted a few commercially and they have done some big hours with no problems. They also say the fuel consumption is better than there old Opti 200's.

peterwhite · 20 September 2013, 23:00

+1 definitely for the verado 200 plenty power ultra quiet and good on fuel. Also bear in mind that it comes with everything you need. Prop, steering, battery, digital throttle and shift and full smartcraft. Good price too. I worked on loads fitted commercially in Australia and I have to say they were good solid motors.

Ian M · 21 September 2013, 07:35

Simon, The 200 small block etec comes in at under 200kg.

Nasher · 21 September 2013, 08:14

Thanks all.

Ian
I didn't realise that.
It wasn't until I was driving home that I realised I'd not seen the etecs at the show. Can't believe I missed them somehow.

Nasher

Pikey Dave · 21 September 2013, 10:16

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Originally Posted by Nasher

I'd not seen the etecs at the show. Can't believe I missed them somehow.

Nasher

You didn't miss them, they weren't there, shame on BRP

Nasher · 21 September 2013, 12:47

Thanks PD

It's pretty cr*p that a major player like BRP decided not to stump up the exhibitor fees.

Nasher

Jizm · 21 September 2013, 13:34

Tohatsu now do 4 strokes up to 250hp. Yes they are re-badged Hondas!

colcreate · 21 September 2013, 17:51

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Originally Posted by Nasher

Thanks PD

It's pretty cr*p that a major player like BRP decided not to stump up the exhibitor fees.

Nasher

It's perhaps just as well that I couldnt make it it the show as I particularly wanted to pull an e-tec apart and quizz the sales people....
Turns out they don't even have an office in the uk either. Each dealer in have talked to over the last week doesn't actually have an engine in stock and will get them to order in 2-3 days.
So come on dealers what the score with Evinrude? Do you only supply to order and are the prices about to drop in the UK as i have heard?

Nasher · 21 September 2013, 18:10

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Originally Posted by Jizm

Tohatsu now do 4 strokes up to 250hp. Yes they are re-badged Hondas!

Yep, had a look at them.

And of course like the Hondas they are big heavy lumps.

If only they'd go above 140HP with their 2-strokes.

Nasher.

Jizm · 21 September 2013, 20:57

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Originally Posted by Nasher

Yep, had a look at them.

And of course like the Hondas they are big heavy lumps.

If only they'd go above 140HP with their 2-strokes.

Nasher.

Maybe I missed it but I didn't see any 2 strokes on the Tohatsu stand at SIBS. Do they still sell the TLDIs in the UK?

kernowsr4 · 22 September 2013, 00:09

evenrude is supost to be withdrawing from the uk market

Chris · 22 September 2013, 07:32

Speak to Mike Vincent at Southcoast Marine, he will know the score and is likely to have engines in stock.

Pikey Dave · 22 September 2013, 12:47

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Speak to Mike Vincent at Southcoast Marine, he will know the score and is likely to have engines in stock.

Mike does have engines in stock, I spoke to him last week. The dealer support from BRP is pretty crap & has been for years. I feel that BRP aren't particularly interested in the UK market.

Hightower · 22 September 2013, 14:47

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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave

The dealer support from BRP is pretty crap & has been for years.

Ever since Rod Bower left I'm guessing?

Hightower · 22 September 2013, 14:50

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Originally Posted by Nasher

If only they'd go above 140HP with their 2-strokes.

Nasher.

Their highest powered 2 stroke is a 115 TLDI and has been since the emission regulations were tightened up? You're possibly thinking of the carbed version?

Pikey Dave · 22 September 2013, 16:12

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Originally Posted by Hightower

Ever since Rod Bower left I'm guessing?

Yup & the Belgians took over the European distribution.