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Old 15 March 2012, 18:28   #21
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Old 16 March 2012, 02:54   #22
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can i make a daft point. the fuel bill on this engine will be huge and if you can even afford half of that bill you would be better off getting a newer engine. Sorry to be doom and gloom but at nearly 1.50 now a litre I would do your sums before opening that guzzler up!
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Old 16 March 2012, 04:46   #23
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can i make a daft point. the fuel bill on this engine will be huge and if you can even afford half of that bill you would be better off getting a newer engine. Sorry to be doom and gloom but at nearly 1.50 now a litre I would do your sums before opening that guzzler up!
i'm going to make a not so daft point???? that since it is a new engine to the poster they can't/won't spend 10-15k ish??? for a "new" 200hp engine.

given the average boater is 50 hours per season (i have to say i doubt most here do that much-i don't)and much of that will be spent at half throttle or less going on averages the fuel difference won't be more than what, 30% more fuel used versus a new engine?

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Old 16 March 2012, 09:10   #25
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Hi, can I ask you nicely to reread my post and I think it is dangerous to assume the persons expected hours, we have people using them from 20-300 with an average of 100. I am also confused as to your 30% point as this does not relate to any data we have.

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average data for leisure boats is about 50 hours. my assumption was no more dangerous than you assuming everyone has 10k to blow on a new engine surely?

before you say anything-i went from a 2 stroke to a 4 stroke- i'm explicitly aware of the fuel difference like the back of my hand. i have read your fuel data comments before and all i can say is MY experience is i save about 30% in fuel on a like for like basis.

even worst case scenario and we assume on your list the user is a 300 hour per year boater-i recon a 200hp lump will churn through say 20 gallons an hour tops on high cruise speed?

4.55 * 1.42= 6.46 * 20 *300 = 3876

a quick google finds a 200hp etec of 2011 vintage as costing 15000 inc vat.

a quick google again finds the etec will likely churn about 15 GPH on a fast cruise (i said 30%, google is suggesting 25% so i was being kind). so your saving say 5 GPH or so with an engine change. i would suggest that is highly unlikley but lets role with it for the purposes of the discussion.

5GPH * 6.46 *300= 946 per year saving. so it would take 15 years in fuel alone saving wise to pay for that ETEC not with standing any residule value/servicing etc ofcourse.

having a new engine is ofcourse a nice luxury but with all due respect to suggest the OP basically ditch his new to him engine as it needs the carbs cleaned is pretty excessive IMHO.

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as I said above I did not say a new engine I said a newer engine and asked the person to do their own sums.

re the fuel consumption,we will need to agree to disagree on that and also the hours the person will use the the rib as I can not see where he stated this but if he did and I am wrong on the this I am sorry.

not looking to start a war here either

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ps if you think my claims are bold have a look at Outboard Engine for sale , 2 x Yamaha 150hp outboards - Boats And Outboards
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While I agree with you totally about the motor , that link is to a scam and isn't really a good example


When 6k will see you a decent used big HP modern fuel injected 2 stroke, it's a no-brainer.
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can i make a daft point. the fuel bill on this engine will be huge and if you can even afford half of that bill you would be better off getting a newer engine. Sorry to be doom and gloom but at nearly 1.50 now a litre I would do your sums before opening that guzzler up!
With respect Dave, I am fully aware of the fuel consumption that this beast if capable of. If I had thousands of pounds to spend then I would have gone for something a little newer and more efficient, but I don't. And as has been pointed out by dubrus, it would take a seriously long time reap the savings from a more efficient engine, given the capital outlay of it's cost. If I was seeking financial advice, I wouldn't be looking here.

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i'm going to make a not so daft point???? that since it is a new engine to the poster they can't/won't spend 10-15k ish??? for a "new" 200hp engine.
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