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24 November 2007, 19:30
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: A large rock
Boat name: La Frette
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200 Suzzy
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 2,293
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175 or 200 on an Osprey 6.5 vipermax???
Well the hull's now finished and tubes are on, so i'll be off to collect very soon. Attention must now be turned to kitting her out.
So quite simply, assuming I stick with Suzuki, do I go for a 200 weighing 263kg or for a 175 at 220kg. Will the extra 25 horses be lost by the extra weight? A 14% increase in power for a 19% increase in weight! And before you all shout and say get an Etec, it hasn't been ruled out.
Any thoughts gentlemen?
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24 November 2007, 21:16
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: West Wales
Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 Opti, F50EFi
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 5,358
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The 19% additional weight is only the motor - what is the proportional weight increase for the entire rig? 43kg extra on a 1000kg-ish boat is only around 4% - Go for the 200
A 3.6 litre V6 will give bags more torque than a 2.9 litre in-line 4 and make the boat a much better all-round performer, which easily justifies the marginal extra cost to me.
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24 November 2007, 22:23
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Member
Country: Sweden
Town: Stockholm
Boat name: Osprey & Ring
Make: Osprey & Ring
Length: 9m +
Engine: Plenty
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 854
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Installed a Suz 175 on a Viper Max 6,5m, we achieved 46,7 knots.
Would have prefered the V6, not only for speed, less sound and better torque.
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25 November 2007, 00:02
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Fareham
Length: 6m +
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 6,626
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Go for the 200, if nothing else it will give better resale value. I'm sure you won't be dissapointed.
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Looks Slow but is Fast
Member of the ebay Blue RIB cover club.
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25 November 2007, 00:47
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,047
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I reckon that I'm reasonably well qualified to comment on this one, go for the 200.
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25 November 2007, 12:27
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: In the middle
Boat name: Déjà Vu
Length: 7m +
Engine: 15/250
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 1,968
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mollers
I reckon that I'm reasonably well qualified to comment on this one, go for the 200. 
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Yep i'd go for 200 49kts + and i run with a 15 2st aux and 25l fuel on the back
200 optimax and 4 pairs of ear muffs
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25 November 2007, 13:49
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#7
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Member
Country: Sweden
Town: Stockholm
Boat name: Osprey & Ring
Make: Osprey & Ring
Length: 9m +
Engine: Plenty
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 854
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bedajim
Yep i'd go for 200 49kts + and i run with a 15 2st aux and 25l fuel on the back
200 optimax and 4 pairs of ear muffs 
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You should be able to get +- 52knots with a 200hp 2-stroke (depending on brand)
Can you fitt the engine higher?
Do you have any pics of the boat.
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25 November 2007, 13:58
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#8
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,047
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Petrov
You should be able to get +- 52knots with a 200hp 2-stroke (depending on brand)
Can you fitt the engine higher?
Do you have any pics of the boat.
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Which brand?
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25 November 2007, 15:00
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#9
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Member
Country: Sweden
Town: Stockholm
Boat name: Osprey & Ring
Make: Osprey & Ring
Length: 9m +
Engine: Plenty
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 854
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mollers
Which brand?
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Did 52knots with a Yamaha 200HPDI, offcourse everything depends on eqiupment etc, thats why i wanted se pics of the boat.
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25 November 2007, 16:25
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: West Wales
Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 Opti, F50EFi
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 5,358
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mollers
I reckon that I'm reasonably well qualified to comment on this one, go for the 200. 
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There's an earlier thread debating the same point here:
http://rib.net/forum/showthread.php?t=11909
Mollers contributed on that one too:
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Originally Posted by Mollers
I think that there is a danger of being "Power crazy". Considering that all outboards have a similar top rev range. If it's out and out speed that you're after, then yes you can run perhaps a higher pitched prop with more HP.But, when you have 6.5m Rib, running it's max HP engine and propped up, the slightest bit of sea and you won't be running it flat out unless you have balls of steel. On the other hand extra power is good when regularly carrying a boatfull of people, divers etc. How often do we run WOT? The fuel useage goes into orbit. Race prepped 6.5m Vipermax's ran 150's, which begs a question.
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