135 power increase

[nugent]

for you engine moguls out there.
can you shed some light on this confiqurence I am in two minds to add this as is , or just run the std bits but with the + 30 thou pistons

135hp carb motor,
+ 30 thou pistons
clean & ported exhaust area
fitted with WMV 16 carbs from xr6
xr6 exhaust divider plate
xr6 exhaust can + top plate jetted to suit

main jet .078
idle 0.44
vent jet 0.82

will it push it up to 150 or ? or am i just creating an accident awaiting me turning the on key???

[outboardtech]

Hi, you have to be pretty carefull when it comes to changing exhaust plates, dividers, etc etc and especially jets in my opinion. When any outboard has the wrong jets in the carbs you are going to run LEAN or RICH. most danger is running too lean and obviously lean is HOT and this causes damage. I have seen the old style mariner 150 and 175hp carb engines with the wrong jets in and seen melted pistons from it. I wouldnt do it if it was my OB. cheers

[nugent]

Originally Posted by outboardtech

Hi, you have to be pretty carefull when it comes to changing exhaust plates, dividers, etc etc and especially jets in my opinion. When any outboard has the wrong jets in the carbs you are going to run LEAN or RICH. most danger is running too lean and obviously lean is HOT and this causes damage. I have seen the old style mariner 150 and 175hp carb engines with the wrong jets in and seen melted pistons from it. I wouldnt do it if it was my OB. cheers

thanks for that think i will go with the std set up its been troubling me working it out, give me a quad engine any day

thanks for the input

[gotchiguy]

Originally Posted by outboardtech

obviously lean is HOT and this causes damage.

cough cough.... some engines run cooler lean of peak...

[Nos4r2]

Originally Posted by gotchiguy

cough cough.... some engines run cooler lean of peak...

Cough cough...

It's probably a good idea to get at least a basic idea of performance engine tuning before you comment.

I'm with Outboardtech -I wouldn't try for a power increase. Apart from anything else, you've got a tight new engine that needs running in. If you get anything wrong, it'll be a very expensive mistake. Changing port height is going to change the torque curve of the motor too (plus the time and equipment involved in getting port height and profiles exactly the same over 6 cylinders) and you're quite likely to find you're either falling foul of the rev limiter before you hit peak power, or bogging down at low revs.


It's easier and more practical to buy a bigger engine.

[gotchiguy]

Originally Posted by Nos4r2

Cough cough...

It's probably a good idea to get at least a basic idea of performance engine tuning before you comment.

I did not mention high performance engine tuning or even that I was relating to the marine sector, however it is a fact that certain high performance engines run cooler and more efficiently lean of peak. Or do you disagree with that?

[Nos4r2]

Originally Posted by gotchiguy

I did not mention high performance engine tuning or even that I was relating to the marine sector, however it is a fact that certain high performance engines run cooler and more efficiently lean of peak. Or do you disagree with that?

Yes, I do disagree with that. Apart from anything else,the phrase 'performance engine' is a misnomer,your statement is showing no constants and 'lean of peak' means absolutely nothing. Lean what? Peak what? Cooler than what? Trousers? Hair growth rate? Hot air output?



If You hadn't noticed, this thread is to do with one specific outboard.If you're not referring to an outboard then your post is irrelevant to the discussion anyway.

[Screaming04]

Originally Posted by Nos4r2

Yes, I do disagree with that. Apart from anything else,the phrase 'performance engine' is a misnomer,your statement is showing no constants and 'lean of peak' means absolutely nothing. Lean what? Peak what? Cooler than what? Trousers? Hair growth rate? Hot air output?



If You hadn't noticed, this thread is to do with one specific outboard.If you're not referring to an outboard then your post is irrelevant to the discussion anyway.

Brilliant.

[Cookee]

Originally Posted by gotchiguy

I did not mention high performance engine tuning or even that I was relating to the marine sector, however it is a fact that certain high performance engines run cooler and more efficiently lean of peak. Or do you disagree with that?

Complete Tosh!

[biffer]

want more power, to go faster, BUY A BIGGER ENGINE