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Old 18 August 2015, 09:01   #1
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There’s certainly a unpleasant ‘attitude’ from a minority of members on here and whenever the subject is brought up admin seem to go into a offensive mode – rather than dealing with the problem.
OK, let's see if there's anything I can do to help. What exactly is the problem as you see it, and how would you like me to deal with it?

That's an open question to anyone interested by the way. Feel free to answer here or by PM if you feel that would be more appropriate.
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Old 18 August 2015, 09:28   #2
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John, the problem isn't something that one click of a mouse can sort. there is a small nucleus of posters who gladly jump on bandwagons, spout negativity, sarcastic responses. unfortunatly, it's a small minority that cause and perpetuate problems.

reading through the comments on this thread alone should highlight a few of those.

the "admins" job is not an easy one, moderator, peace keeper, judge...
so in that respect i don't envy.

like i posted before, as a newbie to the site sometimes i have found it "cold". it took 75 odd views of my initial "hello post" before anyone condescended to even reply with a simple "hello" or "welcome". not the best of starts.

i go onto forums like this to chat to like minded people and inevitably a like mind isnt always what you get.

RHIBs thus far has proven to be a more friendly, easy going experience and less elitist.

it's a shame, there are good people here with a fountain of knowledge but tapping into that sometimes feels like i need some sort of masonic handshake that nobody will teach me.
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Old 18 August 2015, 10:07   #3
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it took 75 odd views of my initial "hello post" before anyone condescended to even reply with a simple "hello" or "welcome". not the best of starts.
I think that has to do with the physical structure of the forum, less than not being welcomed. I tend to read the forum mostly on my small laptop, so I don't see the whole front page, also I start up on the "Ribtalk section. I don't see the new members section unless I specifically go looking for it, which I generally don't. The best way imho to into introduce oneself usually starts with ".....been lurking for a while & decided to post, can someone help with...." that usually gets a response on the lines of "Welcome to Ribnet, have you tried............"

With FB, it's less structured & more timeline based, which personally I detest & is the main reason I don't "do" FB in any shape or form, not just the RHIBS section. So when a new members posts on FB (I assume) the post gets to the top of the pile & everyone sees it.
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Back to the subject, I genuinely don't get the problem, I don't even see a problem, let alone understand it. Ribnet is what it is, as is FB. I don't like FB, so I don't go on it, that's my choice. I don't go onto FB & kick up a stink because it's not my cup of tea & want it changed to suit me, I just avoid it, simples. I like Ribnet, it suits me, I've met loads of great people & some ar53holes, but hey, that's life.


The oysters were terrific BTW, washed down with a bottle of local cider in the sun, now THAT'S what it's really about
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OK, let's see if there's anything I can do to help. What exactly is the problem as you see it, and how would you like me to deal with it?

That's an open question to anyone interested by the way. Feel free to answer here or by PM if you feel that would be more appropriate.
Here's a simple one for you...create a maximum term that a moderator can serve in that position and limit it to say 2 years max.
Consider also putting the election of moderators to a public vote and create a more democratic and transparent forum.

Seems that so many "regulars" who used to post comments have buggered off or just lurk now leaving the same select few to answer people's questions everytime. ( I recon I can narrow it down to the same 8-10 or so members) this Imho makes the whole experience very predictable and repetitive and does nothing to engage people like the site used to several years ago.
I recon this is also partly responsible for the "clicky feel" comments the site has recieved recently.

I admit I have had issues with the way certain Mods have reacted to people's comments which is probably the main reason I spend most of my time lurking now. it's a real shame as I would love to see the site go back to how it was a few years ago but feel that unless something is done soon (by considering a change out of some of the mods) It'l gradually fade out of existence...
I used to struggle to keep up sometimes with the amount of new posts/comments being made... Nowadays there are times when I've logged on to see the same threads/posts still at the top of the "current" list from 24 hours ago!

I suppose I see similarities between RN and government, we all moan about how the people in power rule and blame them for everything but at least in government we get the chance of change every so often.

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I think part of the problem is ribnet allows freedom of speech while rhibs does not I got deleted from ribs because I dared to dissagree with Chris moody ( i was polite & civil) & I know of another member who was also deleted in similar circumstances
Perhaps if ribnet took a similar stance there would be less people to throw stones at what in general is a long established very good forum
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Back to the subject, I genuinely don't get the problem, I don't even see a problem, let alone understand it. Ribnet is what it is, as is FB. I don't like FB, so I don't go on it, that's my choice. I don't go onto FB & kick up a stink because it's not my cup of tea & want it changed to suit me, I just avoid it, simples. I like Ribnet, it suits me, I've met loads of great people & some ar53holes, but hey, that's life.


The oysters were terrific BTW, washed down with a bottle of local cider in the sun, now THAT'S what it's really about
Me neither...infact You put that very well Yong Man.!! IMO Mod's do a decent enough job too
One thing IS...for sure you'll not please everyone all of the time!
.....Anyway..PIKEY gets MY VOTE!
That St Vasst has some lovely Fish Mongers/Restraunt's eh PD!
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Consider also putting the election of moderators to a public vote and create a more democratic and transparent forum.
You're missing the point, which I suspect is the root of much of the dissent. Ribnet isn't a democracy, it's a privately run business, owned by the Cousins & run by JK, it's his to do with as he pleases. If JK likes it the way it is, then it's up to him. If we go back to the pub analogy; if you walk into a pub & start telling the landlord that you don't like his beer & the music on the jukebox isn't to your taste, you'll probably be shown the door & be invited to find somewhere more to your liking to spend your money, notwithstanding the fact that Ribnet is actually free to use, which makes the moaners look a bunch of ingrates.
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That St Vasst has some lovely Fish Mongers/Restraunt's eh PD!
Aye, truth be told we've eaten so much fish in the last month, I'm getting a hankering for something with legs We've got 30 more oysters & 6 sea bream to tackle tonight. I did Mackerel tartar last night just for a change, 'twas very good & I'm going to add it to my repertoire
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You're missing the point, which I suspect is the root of much of the dissent. Ribnet isn't a democracy, it's a privately run business, owned by the Cousins & run by JK, it's his to do with as he pleases. If JK likes it the way it is, then it's up to him. If we go back to the pub analogy; if you walk into a pub & start telling the landlord that you don't like his beer & the music on the jukebox isn't to your taste, you'll probably be shown the door & be invited to find somewhere more to your liking to spend your money, notwithstanding the fact that Ribnet is actually free to use, which makes the moaners look a bunch of ingrates.
Yeah I know what your saying PD, but if that same pub was repeatedly losing customers (who as a whole, were all whinging about the stale taste to the beer) then maybe the landlord might want to look at changing things a bit.
Sure entry to the "pub" is free but without the customers then what good is it? I thought it was the customers that created the environment which ultimately leads to revenue being generated ( in the form of advertising and trade memberships in RN's case) Pretty soon the brewery is gonna be asking whether it's worth keeping it open if no one is spending money because.... well...no one is coming in!

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