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Old 09 May 2006, 08:07   #31
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We were pointed in the direction of the regulations by this instructor & I have to say his interpritation seems to be clear enough. However, I agree that googling will not solve this one either, which is why I suggested that codprawn writes to his insurance company for a definintive answer. After all, they should know & he should have a vested interest bearing in mind the road trip he is about to make with his new boat. How about it codders?

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Why should they know? After talking to Customs and various other official bodies about importing my boat it seems that they never have a clue - until the shit hits the fan that is!!!

All these laws are so full of holes and open to "interpretation" often there is NO definitive answer!!!
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Old 09 May 2006, 10:46   #32
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Why should they know? After talking to Customs and various other official bodies about importing my boat it seems that they never have a clue - until the shit hits the fan that is!!!

All these laws are so full of holes and open to "interpretation" often there is NO definitive answer!!!
Well they ought to know & I would ask the question if I were in your situation. But hey it's your boat so it's up to you. I sincerely hope the sh*t doesn't hit the fan on your journey home.
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Old 09 May 2006, 13:57   #33
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I thought we'd done this feckin' topic "to death"..ho-hum...
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Old 09 May 2006, 14:20   #34
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All these laws are so full of holes and open to "interpretation" often there is NO definitive answer!!!
The important question to ask of your insurers is not "is it legal" but "am I covered".

This may confuse them because there will most likely be a warranty of legality clause in your insurance (boat). If you are doing something illegal you're not covered.
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Old 09 May 2006, 14:22   #35
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Trailer manufacturers?

Something that's just occurred to me.

I would have thought that if you could buy a standard trailer from a reputable manufacturer it would be legal to tow it?
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Old 09 May 2006, 15:41   #36
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I thought we'd done this feckin' topic "to death"..ho-hum...
Done yes. To death? Not quite, as no conclusion has been reached.

For what it's worth - after speaking today to the DVLA, The Dept of Transport (twice), 2 trailer dealers & two driving instructors specialising in towing training (ok, so it was a quiet day in the office ) I have not heard anything to persuade me that the advice we were given was wrong.

Just trying to point out that many of us may not be complying with the law & therefore at massive financial risk in the event of an accident. Thats all.
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Old 09 May 2006, 18:08   #37
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Done yes. To death? Not quite, as no conclusion has been reached.

For what it's worth - after speaking today to the DVLA, The Dept of Transport (twice), 2 trailer dealers & two driving instructors specialising in towing training (ok, so it was a quiet day in the office ) I have not heard anything to persuade me that the advice we were given was wrong.

Just trying to point out that many of us may not be complying with the law & therefore at massive financial risk in the event of an accident. Thats all.
What advice? I have been told the trailer length of 7m does NOT include the drawbar/A frame which can be as much as 1/2 the length!!! You mention maximum length of 18m so a 9m boat and a 5m long Land Rover are WELL within the limit.
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What advice?
I was referring to the advice given by the commercial driving instructor who stopped us in Devon & informed us that the Disco & 8.1m boat rig was illegal.

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I have been told the trailer length of 7m does NOT include the drawbar/A frame which can be as much as 1/2 the length!!!
The people I spoke to yesterday all agreed that the genearally accepted rule is that the draw bar starts at the winch post.

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You mention maximum length of 18m so a 9m boat and a 5m long Land Rover are WELL within the limit.
If you refer to the extract it does mention 18m as a maximum length for both classes of vehicles. However if you read the first part (refers to vehicles with kerb weight of less than 3.5 tonnes) the length limit for the trailer is 7m. Seems pretty clear to me.
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Remove the winch post then!!!
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Remove the winch post then!!!

Classic! That would make the trailer longer
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