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Old 30 April 2007, 15:53   #11
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Sadly it's typical of certain self appointed Rib "traffic wardens" who seem take any opportunity to criticize someone or someones operation who is not known to them. Of course they know so much better.
I would not call myself a "traffic warden" only think of all those who have heavily invested in running such businesses and ensure they are operated in a very professional manner where safety is a key issue. If one was to take your view then why code ribs and have the necessary qualifications ect.

I had first thought he was taking family and friends but later seeing the runs knew it was a "cowboy" style operation.
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Old 30 April 2007, 15:58   #12
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I would not call myself a "traffic warden" only think of all those who have heavily invested in running such businesses and ensure they are operated in a very professional manner where safety is a key issue. If one was to take your view then why code ribs and have the necessary qualifications ect.

I had first thought he was taking family and friends but later seeing the runs knew it was a "cowboy" style operation.
Surely if anyone was taking family and friends for a blast, you would make everyone wear some sort of lifejacket? I for one wouldnt be able to handle the guilt if something happened to them. Let alone someone elses kids.....
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Sadly it's typical of certain self appointed Rib "traffic wardens" who seem take any opportunity to criticize someone or someones operation who is not known to them. Of course they know so much better.

Having seen this 'operation' first hand I think the so-called 'traffic wardens' are right. No-one on board was wearing a lifejacket last year when I saw it either and they are advertised as fast rib rides...
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You are calling what appears to be a business involving a RIB a "COWBOY OPERATION" on a public forum.

Despite what you might have observed, may I suggest that unless you work for the MCA or similar, you are not qualified to make these inflamatory remarks about someone's business even if common sense and your own experience dictate otherwise.

May I suggest you let others make up their own minds if they feel they can from a handful of rather poor quality photographs.
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Read more carefully mate! I said 'As far as I am aware...' I thought it might be as you stated that they had to be carried but not necessarrily worn and for the record I was not judging anyone. People are free to run their business how they choose. However in my opinion it is a skippers responsibility to ensure his paying passengers are correctly equipped. I wonder if some peoples opinions would alter if an non swimmer not wearing a lifejacket was plunged into 11 degrees centigrade water and drowned. I also wonder what an insurance company would say if this accident occured. I would imagine they would not pay out. Not having read everyones small print on their insurance I am just imagining. Finally I also wonder how bad publicity would affect the rib charter industry as a whole if an accident ended in tragedy because lifejackets were not worn?
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Despite what you might have observed, may I suggest that unless you work for the MCA or similar, you are not qualified to make these inflamatory remarks about someone's business even if common sense and your own experience dictate otherwise.
Oooh, so you have to get a bit of paper that proves you can discuss the relative safety merits of a powerboat operation? Just being an experienced water user and powerboat owner isn't enough? It's a shame really, but of course, if you work for the MCA, you must know better than anyone who just owns and drives a boat...

Tim, what qualifies you to call people on this forum traffic wardens? I'd quite like to see proof of your employment within perhaps an HR role, or at a Job Centre, or somewhere similar that means you are suitably equipped to pass judgement and typecast people as being of a traffic warden mindset. Until then, I'm afraid, you are clearly not qualified to pass judgement. Got to have a bit of paper these days.

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You are calling what appears to be a business involving a RIB a "COWBOY OPERATION" on a public forum.

Despite what you might have observed, may I suggest that unless you work for the MCA or similar, you are not qualified to make these inflamatory remarks about someone's business even if common sense and your own experience dictate otherwise.

May I suggest you let others make up their own minds if they feel they can from a handful of rather poor quality photographs.
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I simply don't like people passing judgement on somebody's business and possibly livelyhood in a public forum when they simply haven't got all the facts. That's all.
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I simply don't like people passing judgement on somebody's business and possibly livelyhood in a public forum when they simply haven't got all the facts. That's all.
And, to be brutally honest, I don't like you passing judgements on people's personality, and possibly also their business and livelyhood, in a public forum, when you clearly haven't got all the facts. If you don't like it, why not just leave them/us to it?
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