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Old 04 July 2009, 15:47   #1
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Skipper's quals, MCA code 3?

Things are all getting a bit silly with the local politics, but I now need to know that the (non RYA) commercial qualification is to drive a RIB to MCA Code 3.

Any ideas?
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Hi Martin
The certificate you require depends on the area of operation under the Maritime Coastguard Agency .
Commercial Vesells under 24 metres are coded as cat 3/4 Coastal Skipper Certificate of Competence or Advanced Pwerboat Certificate of Competence .
Up to 20 NM from a safe haven.


Certificate of of Competence for appropriate area issued by a competent authority.(Could be your Man in Alderney)

The MCA 's take on it is as follows
Competent Authority in respect of manning requirements means either the Maritime Coasguard Agency or an Organisationthat issues Certificates of Competence which has been applied for and granted recognition by the Maritime Coastguard Agency as having the appropriate and technical and administrative expertise.
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Coastal Skipper Certificate of Competence or Advanced Pwerboat Certificate of Competence.
Thanks Tim.

My own way forward would be to do some more teaching, then progress to Advanced and then the Cert of Comp. But for a colleague of mine it might be better to go down the Coastal Skipper route, what are the pros and cons?
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The exam requirements for Avanced Powerboat certificate of competence and Coastal Skipper Certificate of Competence are the same .

If you hold the Course Completion Certificate the minimum sea time is reduced from 2 years relevant epxperience 30 day's 3 as skipper 8oo sea miles and 12 night hours .
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2 years relevant experience 20 day's 2 days as skipper 400 sea miles 12 night hours.

Both of these qualification will allow you to skipper vessels in Cat 3/4 2o miles from a safe haven, the medical for either is ENG 1 or ML5.

If you want to skipper Cat 2 vessels 60 m from a safe haven you will need YM Offshore .

The pros and cons are not much in all honesty as the qualifications certificate of comptence limits you to Cat 3/4 just what type of boat you will be driving singe shaft/outdrives or twin shaft/outdrives then Coastal Skipper would probably better suit .

If outboards or outdrives or jets single or twin then APB would probably better suit.

You can do your Advanced Powerboat or Coastal Skipper course at any time provided you have the required pre requisite knowledge a VHF and First Aid certificates.

It is only when you want to go for the Certificate of Competence Exam
You will need to have the logged miles and night hours completed medical form and Sea Survival certificate plus the VHF and First Aid certificates

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What counts as "relevant experience"?

Also, I guess the night hours must be in an appropriate powerboat, and not for instance a yacht (although abviously the nav etc. is the same).

Thanks.


EDIT: Also does 2 days = 48 hours?
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EDIT: Also does 2 days = 48 hours?
2 Days as skipper normally over a distance of 60 miles for a passage.
You must have 12 night hours logged either as Skipper Navigator or Crew
20 days sea time
400 logged sea miles
Hope that explains it better.
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