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Old 18 May 2009, 15:29   #1
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Safety Boats - Should they be coded?

Our local sailing club hosts allot of events. They recently hosted the Honda Formula 4 Stroke powerboat racing, to which I believe they were paid money for safety boats and taking out camera crews.

Should they be coded?

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Old 18 May 2009, 16:17   #2
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Yep of course they should.
Wasn't it Earth Race that got bollocked for taking some people out who gave them some sandwiches?
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Should they be coded?

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Mark Towl at MCA will tell us yes to coding Safety Boats unless they fall into class9 a workboat and in catergorised waters, (not sure exactly what this means!) but otherwise it appears yes.

(MCA document OAN 333revision3)
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The Port of London have recently started a crack down on this and IMHO I think that everybody should support it.

Local BSAC clubs have been putting out small unreliable ribs, one up with a PB2 and charging a minimum of £250 per day! For that price you'd expect something reliable and effective for your money.

They are taking the money from the charitable rowing clubs and the legit businesses.
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Divers to you and me! I would have said yes to the original question as well. Just in the process of coding CJLs old Ribtec
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I'm going to suggest they don't need coded.

MGN280 -

Pleasure vessel is defined as:

(c) a vessel -
(i) which is owned by or on behalf of the members of a membersí club,
(ii) which, at the time it is being used, is used only for the sport or pleasure of a member of that club, his immediate family or his guest, and
(iii) for the use of which no payment is made other than a payment into the funds of the members club which funds are applied for the general use of the members club.

3.1.3 then says: Pleasure vessels are excepted from the code, and included in the definition of pleasure vessels are those vessels wholly owned by or on behalf of a members club. Reference should be made to the Regulations for a proper description of the conditions that need to be met for a membersí club vessel to claim exception as a pleasure vessel.... (which is the definition above)

Most sailing clubs will meet the definition of "members club" used in MGN280.


The only "dodgy" bit might be if the boat is being used "only for the sport or pleasure of a member of that club, his immediate family or his guest" but I think if the club is hosting a sporting event and the skipper of the boat is giving his time free of charge then we can assume it is for the sport and his pleasure and that anyone else on that boat is his guest.
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Our local sailing club hosts allot of events. They recently hosted the Honda Formula 4 Stroke powerboat racing, to which I believe they were paid money for safety boats and taking out camera crews.

Should they be coded?

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Of course they should be coded, corectly insured, correctly crewed, but hey one law here one law there, ok till something goes wrong.
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You are a wealth of information and a valued member of this forum, in fact totally at the other end of the scale from codders.

Thanx for views guys.

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I believe they were paid money for safety boats and taking out camera crews.
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I dont think MGN280 says that this activity is excempt
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