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Old 06 May 2014, 06:17   #11
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Do not assume that RYA inspection procedures are the same everywhere as they are clearly not, and it very definitely" is that simple" to pass your inspection if you comply with all sections of the inspection report form otherwise what would be the point in having the form.
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An important piece of advice for you - Always know who you are talking to before you go off on one.

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So if anyone would like to share experiences or any helpful advice would be most grateful .
Back to the OP - Rich - if you want to PM me with any specific questions I, as an experienced RYA Centre Inspector, will only be too glad to give you sound advice and help
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Old 06 May 2014, 07:21   #12
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Old 06 May 2014, 10:38   #13
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Iceman – happy to have a chat through things with you PM me if you would like to do so – equally you can pop to the office for a coffee if you’d like to go through your paperwork ahead of the inspection – let me know a number.

Commenting on some of the bits here:

As some have said it is beneficial to download the current RYA Centre Inspectors report form as certainly the Operating Procedures you have written and the way that you run your centre should ensure that you are able to answer the ‘correct’ answer on the Report Form.

A good way to review your Ops Proc is to liken it to the instruction manual for new instructors joining your centre. If it doesn’t give them (almost) every ounce of information they need to be able to operate safely and to your requirements then it is probably not comprehensive enough. Conversely lots of words just confuse – keep it simple and but comprehensive.

Yes do fill the form out and certainly take the time to list your centre’s instructors and ensure that you have copies of their current certificates (including commercial endorsements (if relevant) to hand). Doing this does not give you a pass, nor does failing to do so consign you to a bad place but doing so is often indicative of a tidy, thoughtful, well run centre who has invested time in the Inspection – and keeps the inspector happy!

Whilst at a simplistic level it is about being able to get the ‘correct’ answer to all of the questions on the inspection form the inspection will go far deeper than that as there are many things in the guidance notes that are mandatory but are not necessarily addressed in the inspection form.

Take two examples:

Are the operating areas listed on the form, appropriate and free from unacceptable hazards?

The answer to this at a simplistic level may be yes but are these detailed in the Ops Proc, are they clearly understood by the instructors, do they satisfy coding limitations, is the area suitable for the course.

Do the centre’s course programmes fully cover each syllabus and meet the minimum instructional time?

Whilst the syllabus may be covered is the course structured in a logical way, is the course plan complete, logical, address updates to the powerboat scheme courses etc.

So at a simplistic level the answer may be yes to both but there still could be significant action plans hanging off each point.

Bear in mind too that last year was the first year with the new Powerboat kit checklist and where there may have been an element of transition in some respect last year there would not be this year. In short boats at all levels must 100% adhere. Equally, Inspectors were updated at the start of last year as the inspection process evolved so any opinion you may have of inspections from years ago may be less relevant now.

Iceman – the inspection process should and will be a productive process that helps you to run your centre well. You may or may not get everything right straight away but the inspector will work with you to ensure that you are ready to get teaching. Hope it goes well!

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Old 06 May 2014, 21:38   #14
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Back to the OP - Rich - if you want to PM me with any specific questions I, as an experienced RYA Centre Inspector, will only be too glad to give you sound advice and help
[/QUOTE] thumbs: That's you out of stealth mode then. Your offer to help the OP is very generous and I hope the OP takes you up on it.

I had hoped that my comment would flush out Paul Glatzel, (I have had dealings with him as an Instructor and as an Inspector) and knew that he would take the time to give thorough, constructive and reassuring advice which PRIOR to my posting didn't seem to be happening that well.

That comes across as a bit sycophantic, trust me it's not meant to be I’m just speaking as I find and as the thread has proved.

To go back to the OP's question.

If your procedures are OK and your boat/facilities are up there then you should pass. But do things that make it easier for you prove your suitability to run a centre: for example

Make a laminated sign saying that all life jackets have crotch strap's which must be used.

Get some dummy flares from Pains Wessex and make a wall mounted display of them with legends explaining what they are and how long they last etc.

Get a bundle of the RNLI Sea Safety booklets and put them in a pile with a sign requesting people take a copy for future reference

These things aren't essential and this list is not exhaustive but they allow a good perception of your attention to detail and desire to run a proper skool, which in turn might mean that the Inspector is more prone to help than hinder you. I'd agree with C2 Ian’s comments also
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Thanks for all the helpful advice . Hopefully all goes well .

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That's you out of stealth mode then.
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I had hoped that my comment would flush out Paul Glatzel, (I have had dealings with him as an Instructor and as an Inspector) and knew that he would take the time to give thorough, constructive and reassuring advice which PRIOR to my posting didn't seem to be happening that well.
Yes Paul knows what he is talking about and speaks for the RYA
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